<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-17&#xA;📝 Original message:On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 05:18:02PM +0000, Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt; &lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; To avoid such discussions.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; You seem to be assuming that there is specific reason to believe the&#xA;&gt; message is unauthentic.  This is not the case.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Contrary to other poster&#39;s claims, if the message had been PGP signed&#xA;&gt; that might, in fact, have arguably been weak evidence that it was&#xA;&gt; unauthentic: no message from the system&#39;s creator that I (or&#xA;&gt; apparently anyone) was aware of was ever signed with that key.&#xA;&#xA;&lt;snip&gt;&#xA;&#xA;&gt; A focus on the content is especially relevant because one of the core&#xA;&gt; messages in the content is a request to eschew arguments from&#xA;&gt; authority; which is perhaps the greatest challenge here: How can the&#xA;&gt; founder of a system speak up to ask people to reject that kind of&#xA;&gt; argument without implicitly endorsing that approach through their own&#xA;&gt; act?&#xA;&#xA;Something I only recently realised is that Satoshi&#39;s apparent policy(1)&#xA;of never making any cryptographically secure signatures to link together&#xA;his posts - or indeed any communication at all - fits well with the&#xA;avoidance of creating a central authority figure. Currently every single&#xA;thing Satoshi ever apparently wrote can only be linked together by&#xA;trusting third parties - email archives could have been hacked,&#xA;bitcointalk might have fake messages, etc. Obviously in practice we have&#xA;reasonable assurance that the same person or group was behind most of&#xA;the messages we now consider to be &#34;from Satoshi&#34;, but ultimately&#xA;strictly speaking we can only take each message individually, for the&#xA;arguments contained within.&#xA;&#xA;As you&#39;ve often said, the biggest achievement by Satoshi in the creation&#xA;of Bitcoin was to create a system where the identity of the creator is a&#xA;mere historical footnote. We can probably go further, and state that&#xA;while doing so, Satoshi quite counter-intuitively took steps to avoid&#xA;even creating a pseudoanonymous identity.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;1) &#34;Does anyone have anything at all signed by Satoshi&#39;s PGP key?&#34;,&#xA;   Peter Todd, Sept 13, 2014, Bitcoin-development mailing list,&#xA;   http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-September/006606.html&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;&#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@petertodd.org&#xA;00000000000000000402fe6fb9ad613c93e12bddfc6ec02a2bd92f002050594d&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 650 bytes&#xA;Desc: Digital signature&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150817/129d0f20/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>