<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub19jx6yq5fyvvcn3zlf0f60kr78q7wq5fy5qd9yqlqwumlqqcfc8rsl7fxhj</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub19jx6yq5fyvvcn3zlf0f60kr78q7wq5fy5qd9yqlqwumlqqcfc8rsl7fxhj</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-07-30&#xA;📝 Original message:I shouldn&#39;t have said unlimited, i should have said a greater blocksize&#xA;limit such as 8mb.&#xA;&#xA;Anyways, why is that the assumption?  If a miner can do so, and do so&#xA;profitably, isn&#39;t that just competition?  Isn&#39;t that what we want?  If a&#xA;miner can mine low transaction fees at a profit then don&#39;t they deserve to&#xA;have their spot?  Surely if they do so unprofitably they quickly find&#xA;themselves out of business?  Besides, if a miner mines low fee transactions&#xA;by breaking rank, how does this affect another miner EXCEPT for the&#xA;additional blocksize load.  I would maintain this is just competition&#xA;amongst miners gentlemen.  And it&#39;s a good thing.&#xA;&#xA;Right now things are distorted because most income comes from the coinbase,&#xA;but as transaction fees start to constitute the majority of income this&#xA;idea seems to have more importance.&#xA;On Jul 29, 2015 11:00 PM, &#34;Adam Back&#34; &lt;adam at cypherspace.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On 29 July 2015 at 20:41, Ryan Butler via bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt; &lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; Does an unlimited blocksize imply the lack of a fee market?  Isn&#39;t every&#xA;&gt; &gt; miner able to set their minimum accepted fee or transaction acceptance&#xA;&gt; &gt; algorithm?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The assumption is that wont work because any miner can break ranks and&#xA;&gt; do so profitably, so to expect otherwise is to expect oligopoly&#xA;&gt; behaviour which is the sort of antithesis of a decentralised mining&#xA;&gt; system.  It&#39;s in fact a similar argument as to why decentralisation of&#xA;&gt; mining provides policy neutrality: some miner somewhere with some&#xA;&gt; hashrate will process your transaction even if some other miners are&#xA;&gt; by policy deciding not to mine it.  It is also similar reason why free&#xA;&gt; transactions are processed today - policies vary and this is good for&#xA;&gt; ensuring many types of transaction get processed.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Adam&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150729/f665c813/attachment-0001.html&gt;</html></oembed>