<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>moonsettler (npub1dg…4mccn)</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1dgesr3zcgyjv2z0050h7auzdlf88gycry7tlk7wsypmgngy97yxqv4mccn</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>obviously there are levels of trust in every interaction yadda yadda... the important distinction is will the protocol be actually constrained by the on-chain supply or not?&#xA;&#xA;credit networks with ecash mints will not be in any way constrained by what is going on on-chain. credit ecash spent via lightning is absolutely constrained by what exists on-chain.&#xA;&#xA;Ark and other covenant pool constructs and rollups can not double pledge sats, every satoshi is expressed on-chain. and i know for a fact there is an easy magnitude of scaling there. with a level of trust (it&#39;s not completely trustless) but no perverse incentives and no capability to issue paper bitcoin IOUs.&#xA;&#xA;trust is not inherently evil, but fall-back on settlment without trust and unilateral exit capability are necessary, not optional.</html></oembed>