<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1du3xh5wgds32a5fweqkd9k45kh30wl7kv2kyu8ugz9c2ztdg00tqqvyg93</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1du3xh5wgds32a5fweqkd9k45kh30wl7kv2kyu8ugz9c2ztdg00tqqvyg93</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-08&#xA;📝 Original message:I didn&#39;t say off-chain, and gave an example of on-chain usecase with trusted middleman.&#xA;&#xA;So, no, that&#39;s not what I meant.&#xA;&#xA;Sent on the go, excuse the brevity. &#xA;  Original Message  &#xA;From: Adam Back&#xA;Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2015 09:50&#xA;To: Thomas Zander&#xA;Cc: Bitcoin Dev&#xA;Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] trust&#xA;&#xA;If you are saying that some people are happy trusting other people,&#xA;and so would be perfectly fine with off-chain use of Bitcoin, then we&#xA;agree and I already said that off-chain use case would be a&#xA;constructive thing for someone to improve scale and interoperability&#xA;of in the post you are replying to. However that use case is not a&#xA;strong argument for weakening Bitcoin&#39;s security to get to more scale&#xA;for that use case.&#xA;&#xA;In a world where we could have scale and decentralisation, then of&#xA;course it would be nice to provide people with that outlook more&#xA;security than they seem to want. And sometimes people dont understand&#xA;why security is useful until it goes wrong, so it would be a useful&#xA;thing to do. (Like insurance, your money being seized by paypal out&#xA;of the blue etc). And indeed providing security at scale maybe&#xA;possible with lightning like protocols that people are working on.&#xA;&#xA;Adam</html></oembed>