<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1jkdfcglr59lwnhek94l393g0hhhaj0v5yzz3n5s3p0r9u0576sgs7373ck</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1jkdfcglr59lwnhek94l393g0hhhaj0v5yzz3n5s3p0r9u0576sgs7373ck</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-04-30&#xA;📝 Original message:On 30/04/14 00:13, Mike Hearn wrote:&#xA;&gt; Every time miners and nodes ignore a block that creates &gt;formula() coins&#xA;&gt; that&#39;s a majority vote on a controversial political matter&#xA;&#xA;Actually, there&#39;s one more thing I&#39;d like to add. Apologies to the list,&#xA;but it bears repeating:&#xA;&#xA;* rejecting a block at validation&#xA;&#xA;Is /very different/ from:&#xA;&#xA;* reinterpreting a block that has already passed validation&#xA;&#xA;Nodes ignoring a block that creates &gt;formula() coins is rejection at&#xA;block *validation*. That&#39;s the protocol working as it is supposed to.&#xA;It&#39;s deliberately an all-or-nothing mechanism; you can&#39;t pick and choose&#xA;which blocks you like. If 51% of the network say your block is invalid,&#xA;they&#39;re now on a different fork. The consequences are this drastic on&#xA;purpose, for stability.&#xA;&#xA;Nodes reinterpreting a block that has already passed validation is&#xA;almost the polar opposite of this. They&#39;re /ignoring the protocol/ and&#xA;making up their own meaning for stuff. Sidestepping the mechanism in the&#xA;paragraph above. I would hope it&#39;d be self evident that this is dangerous.&#xA;&#xA;Adam Back is arguing practicality in this thread. I&#39;m arguing&#xA;fundamental principle. (And, er, someone else is randomly throwing&#xA;around ad hominems, which we&#39;ll politely ignore; Mike could work for&#xA;Lucifer himself and his good ideas would still be good, and his bad&#xA;ideas would still be bad, so let&#39;s just stick to the ideas eh.)&#xA;&#xA;So, fundamental principle: don&#39;t reinterpret history!&#xA;&#xA;We have validation for a very good reason. Undermine it and you might as&#xA;well have an unvalidated system like Counterparty, which I wouldn&#39;t&#xA;ever trust with more than the value of a small hamburger.&#xA;&#xA;If the economic majority starts reinterpreting history (through whatever&#xA;voting mechanism / side-channel you like) that completely undermines&#xA;Bitcoin&#39;s validation, and its PoW. It&#39;s worse than 51% of miners&#xA;deciding to rewrite history.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 555 bytes&#xA;Desc: OpenPGP digital signature&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20140501/cba8ecc6/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>