<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1sm6zhjmk5scuz294jmpkw99wwwjzetjgwp4fu4gn6utqgdz87hkqamnq7h</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1sm6zhjmk5scuz294jmpkw99wwwjzetjgwp4fu4gn6utqgdz87hkqamnq7h</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-03-10&#xA;📝 Original message:Then of course I tried to do this with BIP 10 &#xA;&lt;https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0010.mediawiki&gt; when&#xA;Armory implemented offline-transactions two years ago.  I got some&#xA;positive feedback, but no one wanted to help improve it, etc.  I guess&#xA;nobody else was doing it and/or cared at the time.  So I continue to use&#xA;BIP 10 even though it&#39;s pretty crappy.  I wanted it to be useful for&#xA;multisig, too, but it has some deficiencies there (it was done when&#xA;Armory was extremely young and OP_EVAL was still on the table).&#xA;&#xA;However, with all this activity, we should start thinking about that and&#xA;discussing it.  Otherwise, I&#39;ll just do my own thing again and probably&#xA;end up with something that fits my own needs, but not anyone else&#39;s. &#xA;Really though, multisig shouldn&#39;t require all the same app to work.&#xA;&#xA;-Alan&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On 03/10/2014 01:49 PM, Gavin Andresen wrote:&#xA;&gt; In my experience, best process for standardizing something is:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; 1) Somebody has a great idea&#xA;&gt; 2) They implement it&#xA;&gt; 3) Everybody agrees, &#34;Great idea!&#34; and they copy it.&#xA;&gt; 4) Idea gets refined by the people copying it.&#xA;&gt; 5) It gets standardized.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Mutisig wallets are at step 2 right now. BIP is step 5, in my humble&#xA;&gt; opinion...&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Drak &lt;drak at zikula.org&#xA;&gt; &lt;mailto:drak at zikula.org&gt;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;     I was wondering if there would be merit in a kind of BIP for a&#xA;&gt;     payment protocol using multisig?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;     Currently, setting up a multisig is quite a feat. Users have to&#xA;&gt;     exchange public keys, work out how to get the public keys from&#xA;&gt;     their addresses. If one of the parties are not savvy enough, an&#xA;&gt;     malicious party could easily be setup that was 2 of 3 instead of 2&#xA;&gt;     of 2 where the malicious party generates the multisig&#xA;&gt;     address+script and thus be able to run off with funds anyway.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;     It&#39;s also terribly complex to generate and keep track of. There&#39;s&#xA;&gt;     been a nice attempt at creating an browser interface at&#xA;&gt;     coinb.in/multisig &lt;http://coinb.in/multisig&gt; but it still lacks&#xA;&gt;     the kind of ease with created by the payment protocol. If there&#xA;&gt;     was a BIP then it would go a long way to aiding future usability&#xA;&gt;     of multisig wallet implementations.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;     What are your thoughts?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;     Drak&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;     ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt;     Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O&#39;Reilly Book&#xA;&gt;     &#34;Graph Databases&#34; is the definitive new guide to graph databases&#xA;&gt;     and their&#xA;&gt;     applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,&#xA;&gt;     this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!&#xA;&gt;     http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech&#xA;&gt;     _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt;     Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt;     Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt;     &lt;mailto:Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&gt;&#xA;&gt;     https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; -- &#xA;&gt; --&#xA;&gt; Gavin Andresen&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O&#39;Reilly Book&#xA;&gt; &#34;Graph Databases&#34; is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their&#xA;&gt; applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,&#xA;&gt; this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!&#xA;&gt; http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20140310/2e157654/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>