<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-05-07&#xA;📝 Original message:On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Tom Harding &lt;tomh at thinlink.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On 5/7/2015 12:54 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; 2) Where do you want to go?  Should bitcoin scale up to handle all the&#xA;&gt; &gt; world&#39;s coffees?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Alan was very clear.  Right now, he wants to go exactly where Gavin&#39;s&#xA;&gt; concrete proposal suggests.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;G proposed 20MB blocks, AFAIK - 140 tps&#xA;A proposed 100MB blocks - 700 tps&#xA;For ref,&#xA;Paypal is around 115 tps&#xA;VISA is around 2000 tps (perhaps 4000 tps peak)&#xA;&#xA;I ask again:  where do we want to go?   This is the existential question&#xA;behind block size.&#xA;&#xA;Are we trying to build a system that can handle Paypal volumes?  VISA&#xA;volumes?&#xA;&#xA;It&#39;s not a snarky or sarcastic question:  Are we building a system to&#xA;handle all the world&#39;s coffees?  Is bitcoin&#39;s main chain and network -&#xA;Layer 1 - going to receive direct connections from 500m mobile phones,&#xA;broadcasting transactions?&#xA;&#xA;We must answer these questions to inform the change being discussed today,&#xA;in order to decide what makes the most sense as a new limit.  Any&#xA;responsible project of this magnitude must have a better story than &#34;zomg&#xA;1MB, therefore I picked 20MB out of a hat&#34;  Must be able to answer /why/&#xA;the new limit was picked.&#xA;&#xA;As G notes, changing the block size is simply kicking the can down the&#xA;road: http://gavinandresen.ninja/it-must-be-done-but-is-not-a-panacea&#xA;Necessarily one must ask, today, what happens when we get to the end of&#xA;that newly paved road.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Jeff Garzik&#xA;Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist&#xA;BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150507/f1a12b68/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>