<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1xvnnyhz8e4eklaakjc9xgm5w8pzkuckt923uacz2cftqdqx23g7q3c5rqg</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1xvnnyhz8e4eklaakjc9xgm5w8pzkuckt923uacz2cftqdqx23g7q3c5rqg</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2013-11-14&#xA;📝 Original message:I also would prefer to go straight to uBTC as the &#34;standard wallet unit&#34;.&#xA; It works out perfectly with Satoshi&#39;s being the decimal units.  Something&#xA;that costs $10USD would be 25000uBTC.  This isn&#39;t a problem for a place&#xA;like South Korea, where 10USD is about 10,000 Won, so we aren&#39;t even off on&#xA;a scale of usable currencies in major economies.&#xA;&#xA;The downsides are obviously confusion (causing mistakes resulting in lost&#xA;coins), and possibly from a psychological perspective on price (uBTC are&#xA;worthless!).  On the other hand, it also might help people feel like they&#xA;are getting in on the ground floor still (I own 100,000 uBTC!), and reduce&#xA;the perception the Bitcoins are not divisible (I have heard several people&#xA;worry that 21 million is not enough units).&#xA;&#xA;Alan&#39;s ideas for compatibility with multiple fields will also be helpful to&#xA;solving the confusion issue.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Mark Friedenbach &lt;mark at monetize.io&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----&#xA;&gt; Hash: SHA1&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; For this reason I&#39;m in favor of skipping mBTC and moving straight to&#xA;&gt; uBTC. Having eight, or even five decimal places is not intuitive to&#xA;&gt; the average user. Two decimal places is becoming standard for new&#xA;&gt; national currencies, and we wouldn&#39;t be too far from human scale&#xA;&gt; everyday numbers: 25.00uBTC ~= $0.01 currently. And I don&#39;t think very&#xA;&gt; many people on this list would consider bitcoin overvalued in the long&#xA;&gt; term perspective.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Better to go through a confusing renumbering only once.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Mark&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On 11/14/13 12:01 PM, Alan Reiner wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; ... I&#39;m also of the opinion that it&#39;s freakin&#39; hard to change the&#xA;&gt; &gt; base unit in such an established system.  There is no easy way to&#xA;&gt; &gt; do this that doesn&#39;t cause more heartache than it&#39;s worth...&#xA;&gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----&#xA;&gt; Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin)&#xA;&gt; Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org&#xA;&gt; Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJShT2JAAoJEAdzVfsmodw4DXAQAIJTNbpwBGTXuFyaxXQULf20&#xA;&gt; hMs7OlQZSOZOdsmSiPv2augxzbpa2DhhZjiosrScSBCjxMeYd4S6WgTt/b8moAYR&#xA;&gt; HD8pm88JyCKDOd7bOmzTkgDOTBBFfH+islmOY9VTdeKGHeOHH6yyLMKwnUpa+S89&#xA;&gt; 4YtdzlIXAtfT37dpR5E4cHPmAYCbrRsNOB6j5ohVl2VqRou2vkwoJr/YvaW54M8i&#xA;&gt; ucIZyai2qjNWyJLcZC9QWi9Yw/W/n9QYE2mHyL0qWNaIrZVn6WGty8KpYq+i7aeU&#xA;&gt; 4N4UdtLT7FAhWYec9nmEec868WsUsd+H3/WSWViMinUKO4YA3cyxWDL7MTmTRsci&#xA;&gt; g0R4WGYCzMM3cEWz5ycf5KEBPH/nDlbqFmEartTffqKXgrK5Ohhw+28Iqw5KcDX8&#xA;&gt; SVx34lw2yHWmTeIMY8d3qYKqBdcsvixDUD3xvq+ZqEIa+bZw12s4LIzqmir84TB8&#xA;&gt; fB4bdq5GddXX0PK4pboXL+Nib0OVK72YgYnVs/ejlBmeiG8Ixoz4/ygR5MHm8jcw&#xA;&gt; tSiwH0xohOJWg3lJj0vZorubXoECcOqwPzsZkwnT9irbrvOuk2jCPvrkEC8U9fgA&#xA;&gt; XHgirStS49/lI/iUWrRchoTt5iuwG18G4+E81V/DMsrSkYlipuf2DlEXiapn3hWz&#xA;&gt; ccP053+6o5Rgpc7J1aa0&#xA;&gt; =QW1i&#xA;&gt; -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; DreamFactory - Open Source REST &amp; JSON Services for HTML5 &amp; Native Apps&#xA;&gt; OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access&#xA;&gt; Free app hosting. Or install the open source package on any LAMP server.&#xA;&gt; Sign up and see examples for AngularJS, jQuery, Sencha Touch and Native!&#xA;&gt; http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63469471&amp;iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20131114/c60e096d/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>