<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1tjephawh7fdf6358jufuh5eyxwauzrjqa7qn50pglee4tayc2ntqcjtl6r</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1tjephawh7fdf6358jufuh5eyxwauzrjqa7qn50pglee4tayc2ntqcjtl6r</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-11&#xA;📝 Original message:On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Michael Naber &lt;mickeybob at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin would be better money than current money even if it were a bit&#xA;&gt; more expensive to transact, simply because of its other great&#xA;&gt; characteristics (trustlessness, limited supply, etc). However... it is not&#xA;&gt; better than something else sharing all those same characteristics but which&#xA;&gt; is also less expensive. The best money will win, and if Bitcoin doesn&#39;t&#xA;&gt; increase capacity then it won&#39;t remain the best.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;If it is less expensive, it is harder to be reliable (because it&#39;s easier&#xA;for a sudden new use case to outbid the available space), which is less&#xA;useful for a payment mechanism.&#xA;&#xA;If it has better scale (with the same technology), it will have higher&#xA;centralization pressure. The higher price you potentially pay (in fees) to&#xA;get your transactions on a smaller block chain is the price of higher&#xA;security and independence. Perhaps the compromise is not at the optimal&#xA;place, but please stop saying &#34;below what the technology can do&#34;. The&#xA;technology can &#34;do&#34; gigabyte blocks I&#39;m sure, If you accept that you need a&#xA;small cluster to keep up with validation, and all blocks are produced by a&#xA;single miner cartel.&#xA;&#xA;IMHO, Bitcoin (or any cryptocurrency) on-chain as a payment system is:&#xA;* Expensive: there is a (known in advance and agreed upon) inflation that&#xA;we&#39;re using to pay miners. But by holding Bitcoin you&#39;re paying for the&#xA;security of the system, even if it is not in fees.&#xA;* Unreliable: you never know when suddenly there will be more higher-fee&#xA;transactions that outbid you.&#xA;* Slow, unless you already trust the sender to not double spend (in which&#xA;case you don&#39;t actually need the security of the blockchain).&#xA;&#xA;I don&#39;t know the future, and I don&#39;t know what use cases will develop and&#xA;what they&#39;ll want to pay or what reliability they need. But let&#39;s please&#xA;not throw out the one quality that Bitcoin is still good at: lack of&#xA;centralized parties to trust.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Pieter&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150811/a9e6e3a9/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>