<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub164fseem24m3rdpqrkq9jkx5n4d6r4wg0cthw8669gag3xszngfrsvfec7x</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub164fseem24m3rdpqrkq9jkx5n4d6r4wg0cthw8669gag3xszngfrsvfec7x</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-10-05&#xA;📝 Original message:It will get correct results about :&#xA;- the existence every block&#xA;- the existence of every transaction&#xA;&#xA;It will get incorrect results :&#xA;- about the *nature* of some transactions&#xA;- and therefore, about the balances of some wallets.&#xA;&#xA;I fully agree with Mike here.&#xA;&#xA;Le lun. 5 oct. 2015 à 14:04, Jorge Timón &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; a écrit :&#xA;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On Oct 5, 2015 1:28 PM, &#34;Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev&#34; &lt;&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; Well, let&#39;s agree to disagree on these two things:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; - I define &#34;working&#34; for a full node as verifying everything; if a node&#xA;&gt; starts skipping bits then I&#39;d say it&#39;s not really &#34;working&#34; according to&#xA;&gt; its original design goals&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; But assuming the hashrate majority has upgraded (and we&#39;re using 95% as&#xA;&gt; the miner upgrade confirmation threshold to start activation, so that&#xA;&gt; assumption seems pretty safe), a non-upgraded full node and an upgraded&#xA;&gt; full will converge on what they see: &#34;the most-work valid chain&#34; will be&#xA;&gt; the same for both. A non-upgraded full node wallet waiting for several&#xA;&gt; confirmations (for example, 6 confirmations) will be just as safe as an&#xA;&gt; upgraded one. In that sense, it keeps working. On top of that, nodes (of&#xA;&gt; any kind) can use unknown block version numbers to notify the user or even&#xA;&gt; stop working (the same notification mechanism you would use with hardforks).&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I agree that hardforks are necessary and we should deploy a hardfork asap&#xA;&gt; to show the world they are indeed possible (bip99 proposes a likely&#xA;&gt; uncontroversial one), but I still believe that is clear that softfork&#xA;&gt; deployment is preferrable in many cases like this one.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Are you going to produce a bip65 hardfork alternative to try to convince&#xA;&gt; people of its advantages over bip65 (it is not clear to me how you include&#xA;&gt; a new script operand via hardfork)?&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20151005/eea49466/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>