<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-23&#xA;📝 Original message:On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:26:38PM +0200, Pieter Wuille wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Gavin Andresen &lt;gavinandresen at gmail.com&gt;&#xA;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &gt; On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Peter Todd &lt;pete at petertodd.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; Wladimir noted that &#39;The original presented intention of block size&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; increase was a one-time &#34;scaling&#34; to grant time for more decentralizing&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; solutions to develop&#39;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; Comments?&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; Consensus is that this process is too painful to go through once a year.&#xA;&gt; &gt; I agree.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; If you believe we will need to go through this process once a year, we are&#xA;&gt; not talking about a one-time scaling to grant time for more decentralizing&#xA;&gt; solutions. It means you think we should keep scaling. I don&#39;t disagree&#xA;&gt; there - as long as we&#39;re talking about scaling as availability of&#xA;&gt; bandwidth, storage and processing power increase, there is no reason&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin&#39;s blockchain can&#39;t grow proportionally.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; However, an initial bump 8 MB and the growth rate afterwards seem more like&#xA;&gt; a no-effectively-limit-ever to me.&#xA;&#xA;In particular, note how this bump is being proposed at a time when&#xA;blockchain space demand is so low that transactions usually cost well&#xA;under a penny each, a insignificant amount of money for almost all&#xA;use-cases.&#xA;&#xA;&gt; I fear that the wish of not wanting to deal with - admittedly - a very hard&#xA;&gt; problem, resulted here in throwing away several protections we currently&#xA;&gt; have. And yes, I know you believe 8 MB won&#39;t be created immediately. I&#xA;&gt; truly, honestly, do not think so either. But I prefer a system where I&#xA;&gt; don&#39;t need to rely on anyone&#39;s guesses for the future.&#xA;&#xA;In that regard Jeff Garzik&#39;s proposal of a blocksize increase with a&#xA;miner vote feedback mechanism is a huge improvement over Gavin&#39;s&#xA;proposal.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;&#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@petertodd.org&#xA;000000000000000008c0be16e152f86ab3a271a13c3f41c56228d72990abf7bd&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 650 bytes&#xA;Desc: Digital signature&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150623/804e5dbb/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>