<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1ac86vemj7ce5z8jyxt39rna3tvwql6xd30ha3vxcd6esysp23d9qrlswfj</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1ac86vemj7ce5z8jyxt39rna3tvwql6xd30ha3vxcd6esysp23d9qrlswfj</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-04-28&#xA;📝 Original message:On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:53:08PM +1000, Gareth Williams wrote:&#xA;&gt;Bitcoin is this perfect /trustless/ mathematical machine [...]&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;2. the economic majority will not cooperate to reinterpret history&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; [this proposal was...] replacing it with:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;2. the economic majority will not cooperate to reinterpret history&#xA;&gt;against any good guys, only against bad guys; &#34;please trust their good&#xA;&gt;judgement.&#34;&#xA;&#xA;Nicely put.&#xA;&#xA;I agree the idea of a populist vote to redistribute or remove mining reward&#xA;is an inelegant thing which would probably devolve into politics.&#xA;&#xA;I think the reason that it would likely work out badly is that its not&#xA;provable, and so no consensus rule can be constructed requiring proof, so&#xA;then it risks devolving to a political decision.  &#xA;&#xA;Step 1: Finney attackers for hire anonymize their blocks (publish via Tor,&#xA;use a different reward address for each block, and each pool miner). &#xA;Demanding identification of blocks is generally undesirable for the&#xA;objective of avoiding centralization and policy abuse.  Dont even think&#xA;about demanding identity, there is no identity in a distributed system.&#xA;&#xA;Step 2: people send tracer payments through Finney attackers, and use that&#xA;evidence to decide to vote away their reward.  (However the proof is&#xA;non-transitive so people can vote anyway they like for any reason).&#xA;&#xA;Step 3: Finney attackers vote down other pools to make the point.&#xA;&#xA;Adam</html></oembed>