rich1.0npub130jddflllc905dlmj0pks9j6fdtld9eu0pql9gm86dxts7whrvxq5hyp4thttps://nostr.ae/npub130jddflllc905dlmj0pks9j6fdtld9eu0pql9gm86dxts7whrvxq5hyp4tnjumphttps://nostr.ae📅 Original date posted:2021-10-15 📝 Original message: On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 09:48:27AM +0200, Joost Jager wrote: > So how would things work out with a combination of both of the > proposals described in this mail? First we make probing free (free as > in no liquidity locked up) and then we'll require senders to pay for > failed payment attempts too. Failed payment attempts after a > successful probe should be extremely rate, so doesn't this fix the ux > issue with upfront fees? Why couldn't a malicious routing node (or group of colluding routing nodes) succeed the probe and then fail the payment in order to collect the failed payment fee?