<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1a9uelw8hswrmps0ayl2dzkh625xjznd5glvqrkhpxngdzupjw8kqqlc2j9</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1a9uelw8hswrmps0ayl2dzkh625xjznd5glvqrkhpxngdzupjw8kqqlc2j9</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2013-06-27&#xA;📝 Original message:A few replies, in order of point raised:&#xA;&#xA;Jeff:&#xA;Arguments against multibit default:&#xA;* Less testing, field experience on desktop&#xA;&#xA;Yes this is true - downloads of multibit have typically been around&#xA;1/7th to 1/5th of bitcoin-QT downloads. It helps of course that&#xA;the bitcoinj networking/ object model is also used by Andreas &#xA;as you note.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Greg:&#xA;I think Mike has squashed the deadlocking problems with reentrant &#xA;locks (primarily in the Wallet). I haven&#39;t seen one in at least a month.&#xA;&#xA;We discussed proxy support on the bitcoinj mailing list a while ago &#xA;and at the time the stumbling block was the Java library used for &#xA;the networking (Netty) did not support it. Mike or Miron would &#xA;know better than I if this is still the case.&#xA;&#xA;Change address behaviour will improve significantly when HD&#xA;wallet support goes into multibit/ bitcoinj (I am hoping to get my&#xA;bit done over the summer). Matija Mazi has been working on a &#xA;Java impl of HD wallets so it is coming down the pipe but&#xA;there is a lot to do yet.&#xA;&#xA;Connections out from MultiBit are:&#xA;+ 4 bitcoind nodes on port 8333&#xA;+ multibit.org (188.138.113.201) for help, current version info&#xA;   (and probably more in future)&#xA;+ the currency ticker will make HTTP gets to the source of&#xA;   whichever exchange(s) you have set up e.g MtGox, CampBX.&#xA;   This calls should disappear if you switch the currency conversion&#xA;   and ticker off.&#xA;&#xA;I think that is all the connections out I make.&#xA;&#xA;Mainly due to the exchanges abruptly changing their APIs and&#xA;breaking things we are planning to put in intermediate &#xA;&#34;Exchange Data Provider&#34; servers. Tim Molter is working on this&#xA;in his XChange project. That will enable us to patch the server&#xA;when things change and the multibits in the field won&#39;t be&#xA;affected. There will probably be a couple of these initially&#xA;for redundancy.&#xA;&#xA;Alex: Yes I think most users migrate to blockchain.info or,&#xA;more recently coinbase.com. They are both good wallets&#xA;but I&#39;d like to keep Bitcoin as P2P as possible.&#xA;&#xA;Luke-Jr&#xA;I think you are right here on the number of full nodes versus&#xA;SPV nodes.&#xA;I don&#39;t think we even know yet what are the working ratios of&#xA;full nodes to SPV nodes. I haven&#39;t seen anybody do any &#xA;analysis on this.&#xA;&#xA;I doubt multibit will ever participate in the Bitcoin network &#xA;other than as an SPV client. All the optimisation is to reduce&#xA;data traffic - it is effectively a mobile wallet that happens to&#xA;live on a desktop. It is not really intended to be more than&#xA;&#34;a wallet for regular people to store and spend their bitcoin&#34;.&#xA;&#xA;In English the nomenclature for direction of the transactions&#xA;is: &#34;Sent to&#34; and &#34;Received with&#34;. To be honest I &#xA;haven&#39;t transliterated the localisation files to check other&#xA;language packs but the localisers are pretty good in my&#xA;experience.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Thu, Jun 27, 2013, at 07:41 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Luke-Jr &lt;luke at dashjr.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; On Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:30:21 PM Jeff Garzik wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; * Very real possibility of an overall net reduction of full nodes on P2P&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; network&#xA;&gt; &gt; Even a reduction of *nodes at all*, as I&#39;ve never seen a listening bitcoinj or&#xA;&gt; &gt; MultiBit node. :/&#xA;&gt; &gt; Jim, will MultiBit be adding p2p listening support?&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Without validation listening isn&#39;t currently very useful. :( Maybe it&#xA;&gt; could be somewhat more with some protocol additions.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Build for Windows Store.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;https://multibit.org    Money, reinvented</html></oembed>