rich1.0npub1z3pv699thu72ewq38lny6cj5dx0xq6ft6mwlckjfus5qta4rx0gs7s35awhttps://nostr.ae/npub1z3pv699thu72ewq38lny6cj5dx0xq6ft6mwlckjfus5qta4rx0gs7s35awnjumphttps://nostr.ae📅 Original date posted:2015-10-06 📝 Original message:Hey all, nice to meet you... I'm new to the community and thus, after taking that first step of signing up, have been reading/scanning these threads over the last few days without contributing my own two ¢-- not, um, 'trolling', just, you know, educating myself and getting familiar with the group ethos and etiquette. It wasn't until I'd read ~10 posts that I understood the initial purpose of the thread! As few others have mentioned, I'm a bit surprised, at all the back and forth à la hip-hop 'battling' ;-) It certainly obfuscates-- while entertaining-- to the point where a newbie like myself might drop out... Perhaps this is intentional-- to maintain exclusivity and weed out the uninitiated. I dunno. But if not, I'm just noting, as something of an outsider, that it took a while. But I'd like to contribute. With what little knowledge I possess, I'm inclined to favor hardfork... Is there a more suitable place to address this? Perhaps to work on code? For this specific project, that is... Anyone point me to a map somewhere? LOL. Thanks to all for reading, and much admiration to you all and the work you've done, my latter comments notwithstanding! Cheers, N > On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Venzen Khaosan via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > That's for Mike Hearn. Sooner the better. Hong Kong, December? > Venzen Khaosan > > >> On 10/07/2015 01:23 AM, Venzen Khaosan via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> Tell you what, eloquent guy... >> >> Give me 15 minutes in a public open mic session with you and i'll >> remove you from your high horse and close your voice in Bitcoin, >> for good. >> >> Guaranteed. You're too stupid for me to let you run loose with >> client funds and this great innovation. >> >> Anytime, anywhere. I'm ready to dismantle your intellectual >> bankruptcy in front of the world. >> >> I'll go for your psychological throat first. >> >> Sincerely, Venzen Khaosan. >> >> >> >>> On 10/05/2015 11:56 PM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev wrote: >>> Hey Sergio, >> >>> To clarify: my /single/ objection is that CLTV should be a hard >>> fork. I haven't been raising never-ending technical objections, >>> there's only one. >> >>> I /have/ been answering all the various reasons being brought up >>> why I'm wrong and soft forks are awesome .... and there do seem >>> to be a limitless number of such emails .... but on my side it's >>> still just a single objection. If CLTV is a hard fork then I >>> won't be objecting anymore, right? >> >>> CLTV deployment is clearly controversial. Many developers other >>> than me have noted that hard forks are cleaner, and have other >>> desirable properties. I'm not the only one who sees a big >>> question mark over soft forks. >> >>> As everyone in the Bitcoin community has been clearly told that >>> controversial changes to the consensus rules must not happen, >>> it's clear that CLTV cannot happen in its current form. >> >>> Now I'll be frank - you are quite correct that I fully expect >>> the Core maintainers to ignore this controversy and do CLTV as a >>> soft fork anyway. I'm a cynic. I don't think "everyone must >>> agree" is workable and have said so from the start. Faced with a >>> choice of going back on their public statements or having to make >>> changes to something they clearly want, I expect them to redefine >>> what "real consensus" means. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm not >>> ..... well, at least everyone will see what Gavin and I have been >>> talking about for so many months. >> >>> But I'd rather the opcode is tweaked. There's real financial >>> risks to a soft fork. >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev >>> mailing list bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org >>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ bitcoin-dev mailing >> list bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJWFBLWAAoJEGwAhlQc8H1mRM8H/0p2sz0gtu62bB+NrllRgU20 > C4imzMr904X7JicqDsGhtySGdyk8DuHBSK4k1A3pOgPb+DoNQhcOUfZ2ZTNgR2tT > yjJHrJP2X+g8YixyQiQNBf65bogTgeBGEizh/H33RSGzdHwoIfeVS5Qja/AMUnk1 > 4XO8d+t5OdtYdKANmR/uUZikrnOXd6KIt9rmJhYUjqmLWXbHzQkhES0mFvJ1BdVZ > ZHNjnWzoE74NAEmPqhhhtU/GCFKQhBq7HHAnqkMoeWk0mgJoGCc+b/4/PwchmUJq > CmVO2TJFrnHb4tYAFgw14tdbSe5ERYT0pHW4qM3gJlYL1ik03k0iQDZZ0eStaXM= > =bwvw > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev