<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1fx98zxt3lzspjs5f4msr0fxysx5euucm29ghysryju7vpc9j0jzqtcl2d8</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1fx98zxt3lzspjs5f4msr0fxysx5euucm29ghysryju7vpc9j0jzqtcl2d8</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-07-23&#xA;📝 Original message:On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Robert Learney via bitcoin-dev&#xA;&lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; That’s not exactly what’s happened though, is it Cipher? Gavin put forward&#xA;&gt; 20Mb then after analysis and discussion has moved to 8Mb, whereas the other&#xA;&gt; camp of core developers is firmly stuck in the ‘1Mb or bust’ group.&#xA;&#xA;His proposals actually end up with 20 GB and 8 GB respectively. I&#39;m&#xA;not sure if you count me on the ‘1Mb or bust’ group, but I&#39;m not&#xA;firmly stuck anywhere.&#xA;I&#39;ve never said that the block size should never be increased, that it&#xA;shouldn&#39;t change now, that 8 MB is too much or anything like that&#xA;because I simply don&#39;t have the data (and I don&#39;t think anybody has&#xA;it). I invite people to collect that data and I&#39;ve written a patch to&#xA;bitcoin to facilitate that task.&#xA;Do you really think that&#39;s an obstructionist attitude?&#xA;&#xA;My position could be summarized like this:&#xA;&#xA;- We&#39;re going to hit the limit tomorrow, and Bitcoin will fail when we do.&#xA;- I&#39;m not so sure we will hit the limit tomorrow but even accepting&#xA;the premise, this is a non sequitur. Fees will probably rise, but&#xA;that&#39;s not necessarily a bad thing. A limit that is meaningful in&#xA;practice must happen eventually, mustn&#39;t it? If not now, when are we&#xA;planning to let that &#34;disaster&#34; happen?&#xA;- That&#39;s too far in the future to worry about it.&#xA;- Does that mean waiting, say, 4 more subsidy halvings, 8? 10?&#xA;- Just don&#39;t worry about it&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;m not opposing to anything, I&#39;m just patiently waiting for some&#xA;answers that never seem to arrive.&#xA;If people interpret questions or the fact that when people use&#xA;fallacious arguments I like to identify the concrete fallacy they&#39;re&#xA;using and state it so publicly (I do it for sport and &#34;against all&#xA;sides&#34;) as &#34;opposition&#34;, I don&#39;t really think I can do anything about&#xA;it.</html></oembed>