<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub10r9d6edmnrljk59wsf06zqp494l3qtjpa3w245hy6t5euqxlzw2qdkgk2d</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub10r9d6edmnrljk59wsf06zqp494l3qtjpa3w245hy6t5euqxlzw2qdkgk2d</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2016-12-11&#xA;📝 Original message:I think the main thing you&#39;re missing is that there will always be&#xA;transactions available to mine simply because demand for blockspace is&#xA;effectively unbounded as fees approach 0. Nodes generally have a&#xA;static mempool size and dynamic minrelaytxfee nowadays so as&#xA;transactions get mined lower fee transactions get accepted into the&#xA;mempool. An individual opting to not send a transaction would not make&#xA;the blocks smaller simply because there will always be other&#xA;transactions available(it would really only have an effect on the&#xA;transaction fees needed to get mined).&#xA;&#xA;On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 3:40 PM, t. khan &lt;teekhan42 at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 3:31 PM, James Hilliard &lt;james.hilliard1 at gmail.com&gt;&#xA;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; What&#39;s most likely to happen is miners will max out the blocks they&#xA;&gt;&gt; mine simply to try and get as many transaction fees as possible like&#xA;&gt;&gt; they are doing right now(there will be a backlog of transactions at&#xA;&gt;&gt; any block size). Having the block size double every year would likely&#xA;&gt;&gt; cause major problems and this proposal allows over a 7x increase it&#xA;&gt;&gt; seems.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Block75 is not exponential scaling. It&#39;s true the max theoretical increase&#xA;&gt; in the first year would be 7x, but the next year would be a max of 2x, and&#xA;&gt; the next could only increase by 50% and so on.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; However, to reach the max in the first year: 1) ALL blocks would have to be&#xA;&gt; 100% full and 2) transactions would have to increase at the same rate. We&#39;d&#xA;&gt; have to be doing 2.1 million transactions a day within a year to make that&#xA;&gt; happen, and would therefore need blocks to be that big.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Realistically, max block size will grow (and shrink) at a much slower rate&#xA;&gt; ... even more so with SegWit.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt;  The main problem with this proposal I think is that users effectively&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; have no way to stop the miners from increasing block size&#xA;&gt;&gt; continuously.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Yes they could, simply by not sending transactions. Users don&#39;t care at all&#xA;&gt; about block size. They just want their transactions to be fast and&#xA;&gt; relatively cheap.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; -t.k.</html></oembed>