<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub17ty4mumkv43w8wtt0xsz2jypck0gvw0j8xrcg6tpea25z2nh7meqf4qgyd</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub17ty4mumkv43w8wtt0xsz2jypck0gvw0j8xrcg6tpea25z2nh7meqf4qgyd</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-04-23&#xA;📝 Original message:I think the cost to mines is the same as what&#39;s possible today, actually.&#xA;&#xA;Consider a group of miners who wish to do this with no changes to the rule&#xA;set. They can coordinate out of band and figure out if they have a majority&#xA;of hashpower behind the decision to orphan a block, e.g. by signing a nonce&#xA;with their coinbase keys. If they reach quorum, then they begin work on a&#xA;parallel chain. Because they have majority they are guaranteed to&#xA;eventually win, though depending on luck it may take a while. Because of&#xA;this, assuming the external quorum system is public, the moment consensus&#xA;is reached the other miners should all abandon the existing branch and&#xA;start work on the parallel chain too, lest they waste work mining on a&#xA;branch that is surely doomed.&#xA;&#xA;The end result would be that the chain stops making progress, disrupting&#xA;end users and generally creating uncertainty as the new chain is forged.&#xA;Also, miners who built on top of the orphaned block end up being punished&#xA;even if they did nothing wrong. Both these side effects are undesirable and&#xA;unnecessary.&#xA;&#xA;So the more I think about this scheme, the more it seems like a simple&#xA;improvement on the current status quo. Miners can do what they could&#xA;already do, but with a more reliable in-band signalling mechanism that&#xA;doesn&#39;t require things like coinbase keys to be online, and them doing so&#xA;does not disrupt existing users or waste energy.&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20140423/97196da4/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>