<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub17kz55p7ysz4ftvq2xyr2zamc776cygwcm5fdz8ndj3jm5umm65xq4sr5tq</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub17kz55p7ysz4ftvq2xyr2zamc776cygwcm5fdz8ndj3jm5umm65xq4sr5tq</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-19&#xA;📝 Original message:Yeah, but increasing block-size is not a longterm solution. Necessary&#xA;higher fees are a logical consequence of lower subsidies. Bitcoin was&#xA;basically free to use at the beginning because miners got paid with&#xA;new coins at  the expense of those who already hold coins. Eventually&#xA;there needs to be a mechanism which matches supply and demand.&#xA;&#xA;On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Mike Hearn &lt;mike at plan99.net&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt; Or alternatively, fix the reasons why users would have negative&#xA;&gt;&gt; experiences with full blocks&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; It&#39;s impossible, Mark. By definition if Bitcoin does not have sufficient&#xA;&gt; capacity for everyone&#39;s transactions, some users who were using it will be&#xA;&gt; kicked out to make way for the others. Whether that happens in some kind of&#xA;&gt; stable organised way or (as with the current code) a fairly chaotic way&#xA;&gt; doesn&#39;t change the fundamental truth: some users will find their bitcoin&#xA;&gt; savings have become uneconomic to spend.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Here&#39;s a recent user complaint that provides a preview of coming&#xA;&gt; attractions:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/39r3bi/breadwallet_asking_me_to_pay_over_10_network_fee/&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Hello, I&#39;m just trying to send my small Sarutobi-tips stash (12,159 bits)&#xA;&gt;&gt; onto a paper wallet. When I try to send it, a window pops up stating&#xA;&gt;&gt; &#34;insufficient funds for bitcoin network fee, reduce payment amount by 1,389&#xA;&gt;&gt; bits?&#34; This would be a fee of $0.32 to send my $2.82, leaving me with $2.50.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; These sorts of complaints will get more frequent and more extreme in the&#xA;&gt; coming months. I realise that nobody at Blockstream is  in the position of&#xA;&gt; running an end user facing service, but many of us are .... and we will be&#xA;&gt; the ones that face the full anger of ordinary users as Bitcoin hits the&#xA;&gt; wall.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;</html></oembed>