<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-14&#xA;📝 Original message:The choice is very real and on-point.  What should the block size limit&#xA;be?  Why?&#xA;&#xA;There is a large consensus that it needs increasing.  To what?  By what&#xA;factor?&#xA;&#xA;The size limit literally defines the fee market, the whole damn thing.  If&#xA;software high priests choose a size limit of 300k, space is scarce, fees&#xA;are bid high.  If software high priests choose a size limit of 32mb, space&#xA;is plentiful, fees are near zero.  Market actors take their signals&#xA;accordingly.  Some business models boom, some business models fail, as a&#xA;direct result of changing this unintentionally-added speedbump.  Different&#xA;users value adoption, decentralization etc. differently.&#xA;&#xA;The size limit is an economic policy lever that needs to be transitioned&#xA;-away- from software and software developers, to the free market.&#xA;&#xA;A simple, e.g. hard fork to 2MB or 4MB does not fix higher level governance&#xA;problems associated with actors lobbying developers, even if a cloistered&#xA;and vetted Technical Advisory Board as has been proposed.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Eric Lombrozo &lt;elombrozo at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; I definitely think we need some voting system for metaconsensus…but if&#xA;&gt; we’re going to seriously consider this we should look at the problem much&#xA;&gt; more generally. Using false choices doesn’t really help, though ;)&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; - Eric Lombrozo&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Jeff Garzik &lt;jgarzik at bitpay.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Eric Lombrozo &lt;elombrozo at gmail.com&gt;&#xA;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; 2) BIP100 has direct economic consequences…and particularly for miners.&#xA;&gt;&gt; It lends itself to much greater corruptibility.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt; What is the alternative?  Have a Chief Scientist or Technical Advisory&#xA;&gt; Board choose what is a proper fee, what is a proper level of&#xA;&gt; decentralization, a proper growth factor?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Jeff Garzik&#xA;Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist&#xA;BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150614/b1a4825d/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>