<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1r3san9v5njl6798hvauyu9ntm6r9c7u8s0t65wls58gpfdcvqp5sa48d0u</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1r3san9v5njl6798hvauyu9ntm6r9c7u8s0t65wls58gpfdcvqp5sa48d0u</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-28&#xA;📝 Original message:Ah, then my mistake. It seemed so similar to an idea that was proposed&#xA;before on this mailing list:&#xA;&#xA;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-May/008033.html&#xA;&#xA;that my mind just filled in the gaps. I concur -- having miners -- or any&#xA;group -- vote on block size is not an intrinsically good thing. The the&#xA;original proposal due to Greg Maxwell et al was not a mechanism for&#xA;&#34;voting&#34; but rather a feedback control that made the maximum block size&#xA;that which generated the most fees.&#xA;&#xA;On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jorge Timón &lt;jtimon at jtimon.cc&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Mark Friedenbach via bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt; &lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; It is in their individual interests when the larger block that is allowed&#xA;&gt; &gt; for them grants them more fees.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I realize now that this is not what Greg Maxwell proposed (aka&#xA;&gt; flexcap): this is just miner&#39;s voting on block size but paying with&#xA;&gt; higher difficulty when they vote for bigger blocks.&#xA;&gt; As I said several times in other places, miners should not decide on&#xA;&gt; the consensus rule to limit mining centralization.&#xA;&gt; People keep talking about miners voting on the block size or&#xA;&gt; &#34;softforking the size down if we went too far&#34;. But what if the&#xA;&gt; hashing majority is perfectly fine with the mining centralization at&#xA;&gt; that point in time?&#xA;&gt; Then a softfork won&#39;t be useful and we&#39;re talking about an &#34;anti-miner&#xA;&gt; fork&#34; (see&#xA;&gt; https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/181/files#diff-e331b8631759a4ed6a4cfb4d10f473caR158&#xA;&gt; and&#xA;&gt; https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/181/files#diff-e331b8631759a4ed6a4cfb4d10f473caR175&#xA;&gt; ).&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I believe miner&#39;s voting on the rule to limit mining centralization is&#xA;&gt; a terrible idea.&#xA;&gt; It sounds as bad as letting pharma companies write the regulations on&#xA;&gt; new drugs safety, letting big food chains deciding on minimum food&#xA;&gt; controls or car manufacturers deciding on indirect taxes for fuel.&#xA;&gt; That&#39;s why I dislike both this proposal and BIP100.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150828/439cc876/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>