<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub16wtdr5grjycaw37553u5vvlfq09rwxhzz4kler6pz952a7ny6mtqslgem7</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub16wtdr5grjycaw37553u5vvlfq09rwxhzz4kler6pz952a7ny6mtqslgem7</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-12&#xA;📝 Original message:On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Jorge Timón &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; I believe all concerns I&#39;ve read can be classified in the following groups:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; 1) Potential indirect consequence of rising fees.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;d rephrase this as &#34;Consequences of high fees.&#34; It&#39;s the level of fees&#xA;that is the main issue, not their movement. Moving from 0 satoshi to 1&#xA;satoshi fees makes no real difference. Moving from $0 to $1 fees makes a&#xA;huge difference. Some consequences are indirect, but others are not (the&#xA;first three below are not indirect). Some of the consequences are&#xA;uncertain, but others we can have very high confidence in (again: the first&#xA;three) and it&#39;s only their effect size that can be reasonably disputed.&#xA;&#xA;Here are lots of reasons that you&#39;re missing. High fees do the following:&#xA;&#xA;-Reduce the utility of people using the network, even if the higher fees&#xA;don&#39;t reduce their amount of transactions.&#xA;-Make some use cases nonviable, depriving people of Bitcoin&#39;s decentralized&#xA;benefits.&#xA;-Makes level 2 infrastructure like Lightning less valuable by increasing&#xA;the minimum value of anchor txns that make sense, and increasing the amount&#xA;of pain suffered when your counterparty misbehaves.&#xA;-Discourage experimentation with new Bitcoin use cases, making it more&#xA;unlikely that such cases are discovered/improved/popular before Bitcoin&#39;s&#xA;security relies on having many users.&#xA;-Makes Bitcoin more vulnerable to regulation by keeping its user base from&#xA;growing, meaning regulators face less pressure to keep it unregulated (see:&#xA;Uber)&#xA;-Reduce the amount of time we have between now and when tx fees need to pay&#xA;for a significant portion of Bitcoin&#39;s security, by keeping the exchange&#xA;rate and thus the value of block rewards low (&#xA;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation_of_exchange)&#xA;-By slowing usage growth, make it less likely that we have a large enough&#xA;base of transactions by the time we need to fund network security via tx&#xA;fees.&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150812/486116ac/attachment-0001.html&gt;</html></oembed>