rich1.0npub1ac86vemj7ce5z8jyxt39rna3tvwql6xd30ha3vxcd6esysp23d9qrlswfjhttps://nostr.ae/npub1ac86vemj7ce5z8jyxt39rna3tvwql6xd30ha3vxcd6esysp23d9qrlswfjnjumphttps://nostr.ae📅 Original date posted:2015-08-07 📝 Original message:Please try to focus on constructive technical comments. On 7 August 2015 at 23:12, Thomas Zander via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > What will the backlash be when people here that are pushing for "off-chain- > transactions" fail to produce a properly working alternative, which > essentially means we have to say NO to more users. But > 99% of Bitcoin transactions are already off-chain. There are multiple competing companies offering consumer & retail service with off-chain settlement. I wasnt clear but it seemed in your previous mail that you seemed to say you dont mind trusting other people with your money, and so presumably you are OK using these services, and so have no problem? > At this time and this size of bitcoin community, my personal experience (and > I've been part of many communities) saying NO to new customers Who said no to anything? The systems of off-chain transfer already exist and are by comparison to Bitcoins protocol simple and rapid to adapt and scale. Indications are that we can even do off-chain at scale with Bitcoin similar trust-minimisation with lightning, and duplex payment channels; and people are working on that right now. I think it would be interesting and useful for someone, with an interest in low trust, high scale transactions, to work on and propose an interoperability standard and API for such off-chain services to be accessed by wallets, and perhaps periodic on-chain inter-service netting. Adam