<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1xg2m84malu0cfm4444r0kysx4rgk27e75aj6sz6538kw8fcz627qeadsv7</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1xg2m84malu0cfm4444r0kysx4rgk27e75aj6sz6538kw8fcz627qeadsv7</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-03-14&#xA;📝 Original message:How much do you pay for an Espresso in your local currency?&#xA;&#xA;At least for the Euro and the Dollar, mBTC 3.56 is very close to what&#xA;people would expect. Certainly more familiar than µBTC 3558 or BTC&#xA;0.003578.&#xA;&#xA;Anyway, I was just sharing real-world experience: nobody is confused.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On 03/14/2014 03:14 PM, Tamas Blummer wrote:&#xA;&gt; You give them a hard to interpret thing like mBTC and then wonder&#xA;&gt; why they rather look at local currency. Because the choices you&#xA;&gt; gave them are bad.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; I think Bitcoin would have a better chance to be percieved as a&#xA;&gt; currency of its own if it had prices and fractions like currencies&#xA;&gt; do.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; 3.558 mBTC or 0.003578 BTC will never be as accepted as 3558 bits&#xA;&gt; would be.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Tamas Blummer Bits of Proof&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; On 14.03.2014, at 15:05, Andreas Schildbach &lt;andreas at schildbach.de&gt;&#xA;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt; btw. None of Bitcoin Wallet&#39;s users complained about confusion&#xA;&gt;&gt; because of the mBTC switch. In contrast, I get many mails and&#xA;&gt;&gt; questions if exchange rates happen to differ by &gt;10%.&#xA;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt; I suspect nobody looks at the Bitcoin price. It&#39;s the amount in&#xA;&gt;&gt; local currency that matters to the users.&#xA;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt; On 03/13/2014 02:40 PM, Andreas Schildbach wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt; Indeed. And users were crying for mBTC. Nobody was asking for&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt; µBTC.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt; I must admit I was not aware if this thread. I just watched&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt; other wallets and at some point decided its time to switch to&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt; mBTC.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 03/13/2014 02:31 PM, Mike Hearn wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The standard has become mBTC and that&#39;s what was adopted.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It&#39;s too late to try and sway this on a mailing list thread&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; now.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary Rowe&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;g.rowe at froot.co.uk &lt;mailto:g.rowe at froot.co.uk&gt;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The MultiBit HD view is that this is a locale-sensitive&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; presentation issue. As a result we offer a simple&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; configuration panel giving pretty much every possible&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; combination: icon, m+icon,  μ+icon, BTC, mBTC,  μBTC, XBT,&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mXBT,  μXBT, sat along with settings for leading/trailing&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; symbol, commas, spaces and points. This allows anyone to&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; customise to meet their own needs beyond the offered default.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We apply the NIST guidelines for representation of SI unit&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; symbols (i.e no conversion to native language, no RTL giving&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; icon+m etc).&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Right now MultiBit HD is configured to use m+icon taken from&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the Font Awesome icon set. However reading earlier posts it&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; seems that μ+icon is more sensible.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Let us know what you&#39;d like.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Links: m+icon screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG Font&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Awesome icon:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/btc/ NIST SI&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; guidelines: http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 13 March 2014 12:56, Jeff Garzik &lt;jgarzik at bitpay.com &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:jgarzik at bitpay.com&gt;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Resurrecting this topic.  Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; several weeks ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the consensus was uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; happen-- may result in additional user confusion, thanks to&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; yet another decimal place transition.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Wendell &lt;w at grabhive.com &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:w at grabhive.com&gt;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We&#39;re with uBTC too. Been waiting for the signal to do&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; this,&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; let&#39;s do it right after the fee system is improved.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -wendell&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; grabhive.com &lt;http://grabhive.com&gt; |&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; twitter.com/hivewallet&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;http://twitter.com/hivewallet&gt; | gpg: 6C0C9411&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Go straight to uBTC. 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