<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub15758wuggl6u8umupz8ellvdjad7mjcchkn2vcelrmmeg55f48euspfpqkx</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub15758wuggl6u8umupz8ellvdjad7mjcchkn2vcelrmmeg55f48euspfpqkx</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2021-11-23&#xA;📝 Original message:&#xA;what i can imagine is each team should provide boxes and channel liquidity&#xA;as stake on mainnet for tests before announce a public realise as to feel&#xA;the pain first hand instead of having several K´s of plebs confused and at&#xA;worst have funds in channelclosed etc. but mostly for helping in smooth&#xA;transitioning into future envisioned mass.&#xA;&#xA;If teams rather outsource the running of boxes with channels on mainnet for&#xA;impl release and rc versions they would of course be able to, but close to&#xA;home for managing analysis of the team impl themselves is what I would&#xA;recommend.&#xA;&#xA;Can also see that each box loglines are collected at one central point&#xA;whereby requests can be made for comparing interoperability per unix.ts&#xA;identified by box.&#xA;(thats alot of data You say --not really in Big Data terms, question is&#xA;where to set a proper cap in time for collections ? a week ? a month ?)&#xA;I think i might have a solution for the central point collector that could&#xA;be run by an outside of impl teams perimeter. (sponsored?)&#xA;&#xA;/xraid&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 11:35 AM ZmnSCPxj &lt;ZmnSCPxj at protonmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Good morning again x-raid,&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Are you proposing as well to provide the hardware and Internet connection&#xA;&gt; for these boxes?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I know of one person at least who runs a node that tracks the C-Lightning&#xA;&gt; master (I think they do a nightly build?), and I run a node that I update&#xA;&gt; every release of C-Lightning (and runs CLBOSS as well).&#xA;&gt; I do not know the actual implementations of what they connect to, but LND&#xA;&gt; is very popular on the network and LNBIG is known to be an LND shop, and&#xA;&gt; LNBIG is so pervasive that nearly every long-lived forwarding node has at&#xA;&gt; least one channel with *some* LNBIG node.&#xA;&gt; I consider this &#34;good enough&#34; in practice to catch interop bugs, but some&#xA;&gt; interop bugs are deeper than just direct node-to-node communications.&#xA;&gt; For example, we had bugs in our interop with LND `keysend` before, by my&#xA;&gt; memory.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Regards,&#xA;&gt; ZmnSCPxj&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/attachments/20211123/2a4afb38/attachment-0001.html&gt;</html></oembed>