<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1sgs97fe0n9wehe6zw7drcxdz4cy9yt9pfqjv8gasz5jlk4zezc0quppx3c</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1sgs97fe0n9wehe6zw7drcxdz4cy9yt9pfqjv8gasz5jlk4zezc0quppx3c</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-02-05&#xA;📝 Original message:BLE has an advertised range of over 100m. &#xA;&#xA;http://www.bluetooth.com/Pages/low-energy-tech-info.aspx&#xA;&#xA;In the case of mass surveillance that range could most likely be extended dramatically by the reviewer. I&#39;ve seen  WiFi ranges of over a mile with a strong (not FCC approved) receiver.&#xA;&#xA;WiFi hotspots don&#39;t have strong identity or a guaranteed position, so they can&#39;t be trusted for location.&#xA;&#xA;e&#xA;&#xA;On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Mike Hearn &lt;mike at plan99.net&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt;&gt; This sounds horrible. You could basically monitor anyone with a wallet in a highly populated area and track them super easily by doing facial recognition.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; We&#39;re talking about BLE, still? The radio tech that runs in the so called &#34;junk bands&#34; because propagation is so poor?&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; My watch loses its connection to my phone if I just put it down and walk around my apartment. I&#39;m all for reasonable paranoia, but Bluetooth isn&#39;t going to be enabling mass surveillance any time soon. It barely goes through air, let alone walls.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Anyway, whatever. I&#39;m just bouncing around ideas for faster user interfaces. You could always switch it off or set it to be triggered by the presence of particular wifi hotspots, if you don&#39;t mind an initial bit of setup.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Back on topic - the debate is interesting, but I think to get this to the stage of being a BIP we&#39;d need at least another wallet to implement it? Then I guess a BIP would be useful regardless of the design issues. The prefix matching still feels flaky to me but it&#39;s hard to know if you could really swipe payments out of the air in practice, without actually trying it.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150205/7d08d7ba/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>