<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1k2eekmevs6gg60df75qpjw4a2atmy89vx28c8zqq5jxy64tuzrws39qd6m</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1k2eekmevs6gg60df75qpjw4a2atmy89vx28c8zqq5jxy64tuzrws39qd6m</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-04-23&#xA;📝 Original message:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----&#xA;Hash: SHA1&#xA;&#xA;On 04/23/2014 03:07 PM, Mike Hearn wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Justus Ranvier&#xA;&gt; &lt;justusranvier at gmail.com&gt;wrote:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt; If enough miners don&#39;t like a block that has been mined, they can&#xA;&gt;&gt; all work to orphan it without any change to the protocol&#xA;&gt;&gt; whatsoever.&#xA;&gt;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; As was already pointed out, yes. However this requires them to&#xA;&gt; immediate establish a majority consensus and be absolutely sure it&#xA;&gt; really is the majority. You suggest an out of band mechanism for&#xA;&gt; that, but why is this better than using the actual consensus&#xA;&gt; mechanism you&#39;re trying to measure?&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt; Once you&#39;ve changed the network such that it is no longer a&#xA;&gt;&gt; machine that faithfully processes scripts&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Bitcoin imposes far more rules than just execution of the&#xA;&gt; scripting language, many of which are entirely arbitrary and the&#xA;&gt; result of (controversial) human judgement, like the inflation&#xA;&gt; schedule. You can&#39;t claim Bitcoin implements only some kind of&#xA;&gt; natural law.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&#xA;I&#39;ve formulated my replies to you and this proposal in a more public&#xA;venue, where such discussions of existential changes to the protocol&#xA;more rightfully belong:&#xA;&#xA;http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2014/04/dirty-deals-in-smoke-filled-rooms.html&#xA;&#xA;- -- &#xA;Support online privacy by using email encryption whenever possible.&#xA;Learn how here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bakOKJFtB-k&#xA;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----&#xA;Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)&#xA;Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/&#xA;&#xA;iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTV/Y0AAoJECoisBQbQ4v08NcH/RfkaBAcS5eAKmwePqFuqIUN&#xA;xJKyIWo+tyY1vPYgArCVNsYr3YM8Wc5fkpqLNxCaM7S0/UmO8YaOdiD7XJyl7bF9&#xA;xAveyRt1mfHhx9x6hnPLYbe8WKqtjssSt6MglN8OXtf0EDO+eIxPj6Ya8OZ5YJrL&#xA;N8SMHaDs2J+qy3Qfec9keE5dyhYLNRC6PjYPVvrRAyqFSjt/8r4Z2a4r0oqvv3Yt&#xA;mYU1Tx+WoXMKXWY/Dwql1NLbuspZsOhPx/ncROZ5KVryCdrcW/GEIEQ6P0AIdHvT&#xA;TKYJzh1bdRDYDmVS5z8nUG6waxJwuWPStQo7UYdg26daRUw5qPzjO9SMLLFZPCU=&#xA;=OOck&#xA;-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: 0x1B438BF4.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-keys&#xA;Size: 21191 bytes&#xA;Desc: not available&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20140423/4c0947ef/attachment.bin&gt;</html></oembed>