<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1g97v5rt5sguagjk0cetckrhhmr3hded8u4vwe5keqphe7ye9tgfsv323pl</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1g97v5rt5sguagjk0cetckrhhmr3hded8u4vwe5keqphe7ye9tgfsv323pl</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-15&#xA;📝 Original message:If this proposal has less than half of the total hashpower (or is it even&#xA;less than 75%? Haven&#39;t quite thought it through completely) supporting it,&#xA;I can see the following happening if the sum of supporters and people who&#xA;want to screw the supporters out of money is at least 75%:&#xA;Non-supporters create blocks with the new version, but don&#39;t actually&#xA;implement the rule. Then after the new rule is locked in, miners will&#xA;create too-large blocks that are rejected by the majority. If the&#xA;percentage is less than half, then from their perspective, they will&#xA;essentially be on the losing  side of a soft fork, and they&#39;ll be losing&#xA;money by mining for nothing, even from their perspective and that of e.g.&#xA;users and merchants who have upgraded.&#xA;&#xA;On Saturday, August 15, 2015, Milly Bitcoin via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; So if you want a user vote, that&#39;s an issue that&#39;d have to be tackled:&#xA;&gt;&gt; the people who admin the main communication channels Bitcoin users have&#xA;&gt;&gt; vowed to censor any program that doesn&#39;t slavishly follow 51%+ hash&#xA;&gt;&gt; power. That attempt to control the conversation is certainly not&#xA;&gt;&gt; libertarian or democratic in nature, but there you go.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; These types of actions are immediately apparent to anyone who looks at the&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin ecosystem (Bitcoin.org, Githib, Wiki, bitcointalk, etc.) and were&#xA;&gt; readily apparent long before any block size debate.  It is almost a taboo&#xA;&gt; subject and anyone who raises these types of issues is immediately labeled&#xA;&gt; as a &#34;troll.&#34;  These are the people who used to run around saying that&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin development is &#34;decentralized&#34; because anyone can fork the code and&#xA;&gt; now many of the same people claim a fork will destroy everything.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The problem is that a small group of highly irrational and inexperienced&#xA;&gt; people (outside of the small and unusual Bitcoin ecosystem) have control&#xA;&gt; over the majority of the resources.  I think over time the problem will&#xA;&gt; even itself out but currently it is an obstacle in moving Bitcoin forward.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Russ&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150815/65208c23/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>