<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1qa67gm2kyrqt7sldhzeppu5hq2ajx80y8f5rs9z6f34pjce03lms4wrrvp</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1qa67gm2kyrqt7sldhzeppu5hq2ajx80y8f5rs9z6f34pjce03lms4wrrvp</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-01-17&#xA;📝 Original message:Well, at least we don&#39;t have to worry about cache invalidation.&#xA;&#xA;Ben&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Peter Todd &lt;pete at petertodd.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:15:40AM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; I must say, this shed is mighty fine looking. It&#39;d be a great place to&#xA;&gt; &gt; store our bikes. But, what colour should we paint it?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I think we should paint it this colour:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;     They had uncovered what seemed to be the side of a large coloured&#xA;&gt;     globule embedded in the substance. The colour, which resembled some&#xA;&gt;     of the bands in the meteor&#39;s strange spectrum, was almost impossible&#xA;&gt;     to describe; and it was only by analogy that they called it colour&#xA;&gt;     at all.  Its texture was glossy, and upon tapping it appeared to&#xA;&gt;     promise both brittle ness and hollowness. One of the professors gave&#xA;&gt;     it a smart blow with a hammer, and it burst with a nervous little&#xA;&gt;     pop. Nothing was emitted, and all trace of the thing vanished with&#xA;&gt;     the puncturing. It left behind a hollow spherical space about three&#xA;&gt;     inches across, and all thought it probable that others would be&#xA;&gt;     discovered as the enclosing substance wasted away.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I think it really gets to the core of my feelings about this naming&#xA;&gt; discussion.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; How about we split the difference and go with &#34;privacy address&#34;? As Peter&#xA;&gt; &gt; notes, that&#39;s what people actually like and want. The problem with&#xA;&gt; stealth&#xA;&gt; &gt; is it&#39;s got strong connotations with American military hardware and&#xA;&gt; perhaps&#xA;&gt; &gt; thieves sneaking around in the night:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&amp;q=stealth&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; WOW! AWESOME KICK-ASS PICS!&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Come to think of it, I could have called it &#34;incognito addresses&#34; - a&#xA;&gt; term nice enough that Google and Firefox use it in their browsers - but&#xA;&gt; what&#39;s done is done and any further discussion about this is just going&#xA;&gt; to confuse the public. Remember that in the long run all this stuff will&#xA;&gt; be hidden behind payment protocols anyway, and users *won&#39;t even know*&#xA;&gt; that under the hood a stealth address is being used, making the name&#xA;&gt; just a technical detail. For now though, lets use the good PR and get&#xA;&gt; some early adopters on board.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; However, the term &#39;incognito&#39; probably would be a good one to use within&#xA;&gt; wallet software itself to describe what it&#39;s doing when the user clicks&#xA;&gt; the &#34;I want my transactions to be private&#34; setting - there are after all&#xA;&gt; fundemental bandwidth-privacy trade-offs in the threat model supposed by&#xA;&gt; both prefix and bloom filters. In this instance the term isn&#39;t going to&#xA;&gt; go away.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Anyway, back to work: For the actual address format I strongly think we&#xA;&gt; need to ensure that it can be upgrading in a backwards compatible way.&#xA;&gt; This means we have to be able to add new fields - for instance if&#xA;&gt; Gregory&#39;s ideas for different ways of doing the SPV-bait came to&#xA;&gt; fruition. Given that &#34;addresses&#34; aren&#39;t something that should stay&#xA;&gt; user-visible forever, thoughts on just making the actual data a protocol&#xA;&gt; buffers object?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Second question: Any performance figures yet on how efficient scanning&#xA;&gt; the blockchain for matching transactions actually is? I&#39;d like to get an&#xA;&gt; idea soon for both desktop and smartphone wallets so we can figure out&#xA;&gt; what kind of trade-offs users might be forced into in terms of prefix&#xA;&gt; length.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; --&#xA;&gt; &#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@petertodd.org&#xA;&gt; 0000000000000001c9b372ed519ecc6d41c10b42a7457d1ca5acd560a535596b&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services.&#xA;&gt; Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For&#xA;&gt; Critical Workloads, Development Environments &amp; Everything In Between.&#xA;&gt; Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&amp;iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20140117/f1767ee8/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>