<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub14h948ndawt32ps3y225sslch8344tmw8k5z0lxuxr6wq9tu6sl2qj9yjx0</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub14h948ndawt32ps3y225sslch8344tmw8k5z0lxuxr6wq9tu6sl2qj9yjx0</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2017-03-05&#xA;📝 Original message:I also think that the UASF is a good idea. Hashrate follows coin price. If&#xA;the UASF has the higher coin price, the other chain will be annihilated. If&#xA;the UASF has a lower coin price, the user activated chain can still exist&#xA;(though their coins can be trivially stolen on the majority chain).&#xA;&#xA;The success of the UASF depends entirely on the price. And actually, the&#xA;price is easy to manipulate. If you, as an economically active full node,&#xA;refuse to acknowledge the old chain and demand that incoming coins arrive&#xA;over the UASF chain. In doing so, you drive down the utility of the old&#xA;chain and drive up the utility of the new chain. This ultimately impacts&#xA;the price.&#xA;&#xA;I think it would be pretty easy to get high confidence of the success of a&#xA;UASF. Basically you need all the major economic hubs to agree to upgrade&#xA;and then exclusively accept UASF coins. I don&#39;t have a comprehensive list,&#xA;but if we could sign on 75% of the major exchanges and payment processors,&#xA;and get 75% of the wallets to upgrade, then the UASF would be very likely&#xA;to successfully obliterate the old rules, as miners would be unable to sell&#xA;their coins or pay their bills by stubbornly sticking to the old chain.&#xA;It&#39;s less risky than a hard fork by far, because there is zero risk of coin&#xA;split if the UASF has majority hashrate, which will follow majority&#xA;economic value.&#xA;&#xA;A serious proposal I think would get all the code ready and merged, but&#xA;without setting a flag day. Then we would get signatures from the major&#xA;institutions promising to use the software and saying that they are ready&#xA;for a flag day. After that, you release a patch with a flag day 12 months&#xA;in the future. People can upgrade immediately, and have a full year to&#xA;transition.&#xA;&#xA;That gives tons of time for people to upgrade, and tons of confidence that&#xA;the UASF will end up as the majority chain.&#xA;&#xA;If we cannot get enough major exchanges, payment processors, and other&#xA;economic hubs to upgrade,  the flag day should remain upset, as the risk of&#xA;coin split will be non-zero.&#xA;&#xA;I would suggest that a carefully executed UASF is much riskier than a soft&#xA;fork, but far, far less risky than a hard fork.&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20170305/fa9b6571/attachment-0001.html&gt;</html></oembed>