<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1t9txg5aevth45pu9hcz075tj3ch25fydn8c38wew90qjjdjv3rqq3r6cf0</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1t9txg5aevth45pu9hcz075tj3ch25fydn8c38wew90qjjdjv3rqq3r6cf0</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-04-08&#xA;📝 Original message:Multi-sig requires infrastructure.  It isn&#39;t a magic wand that we can &#xA;wave to make everyone secure.  The protocols and techniques necessary &#xA;don&#39;t exist yet, and apparently no one has much of an incentive to &#xA;create them.&#xA;&#xA;I mean no offense, and I don&#39;t mean to pick on you.  Your post stuck out &#xA;while I was reading.  Secure multi-sig is what we all want, but wanting &#xA;apparently isn&#39;t enough to make it happen.&#xA;&#xA;Other random notes from reading this 50+ post thread:&#xA;&#xA;Perhaps we should have a config flag to prevent a node from serving IBD &#xA;to new nodes.  IBD crushes marginal machines, particularly those with &#xA;spinning disks.  This has been extensively discussed elsewhere.&#xA;&#xA;The ideal IBD hosts are serving the blockchain out of a RAM disk. Is &#xA;there any interest in setting up a network of volunteers to host &#xA;expensive servers with fast connections?  It doesn&#39;t look too terribly &#xA;difficult to figure out when a node has stopped asking for blocks in &#xA;bulk, so we could add another config flag to eject nodes once they are &#xA;done booting.&#xA;&#xA;Even ignoring IBD, I think that we are gradually outgrowing cheapass &#xA;hosting options.  Personally, I long ago gave up on answering forum &#xA;questions about running nodes on virtual servers and VPSs.  It is &#xA;certainly still possible to run bitcoind on small boxes, but it isn&#39;t &#xA;trivial any more.  (Anyone running on less than my Athlon XP 1800+ with &#xA;896 MB RAM?)  If we want those nodes back, we need to optimize the hell &#xA;out of the memory use, and even that might not be enough.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Eric Martindale wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; We need to make it so mind-numbingly simple to &#34;run Bitcoin correctly&#34; &#xA;&gt; that the average user doesn&#39;t find reasons to do so in the course of &#xA;&gt; normal use.  Right now, Coinbase and Bitstamp are winning in the user &#xA;&gt; experience battle, which technically endanger the user, and by proxy &#xA;&gt; the Bitcoin network.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Multi-sig as a default is a start.  It won&#39;t succeed unless the user &#xA;&gt; experience is simply better than trusted third parties, but we need to &#xA;&gt; start the education process with the very basic fundamental: trusting &#xA;&gt; a third-party with full access to your Bitcoin is just replacing one &#xA;&gt; centralized banking system with another.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;</html></oembed>