<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>weev (npub1we…409xg)</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1weev88wc43slz6jjlq2h30ltmd0ccu9utfe8wet2kkax0w6epavqw409xg</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>&gt; Is there a decentralized ledger&#xA;&#xA;You were just arguing that ledger centralization in Lightning is absolutely okay, where everyone will use a custodial shitcoin version of Lightning and that’s fine because someone CAN transact in real Bitcoin. I don’t see how much different this is from “well, sure, the people issuing the gold-backed token COULD be lying about their gold reserves but that’s okay because you can have Krugerrands at home.” &#xA;&#xA;I don’t buy this chain of argumentation, which is why I think Lightning is not the solution, and think we should give BIP300/BIP301 a shot at deossifying the base layer and see if they can make transacting Bitcoin at scale with asynchronous broadcasts work. </html></oembed>