<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1kf0ppcjaguxekg24yx6smgxlu73qn0k8lm0t2wrqc0scpl7u3sgsmf3f58</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2013-12-02&#xA;📝 Original message:Current rough timeline proposed for 0.9 was end-of-January, IIRC.&#xA;&#xA;On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Mike Hearn &lt;mike at plan99.net&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; PPv1 doesn&#39;t have any notion of fee unfortunately. I suppose it could be&#xA;&gt; added easily, but we also need to launch the existing feature set.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; There&#39;s code pending review to implement PPv1 in bitcoinj, unfortunately&#xA;&gt; it&#39;s currently not passing unit tests and the author can&#39;t figure out why. I&#xA;&gt; didn&#39;t have time to debug it yet myself. I&#39;m hopeful we can get it working&#xA;&gt; and merged by EOY.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; It may be time to start talking about timelines for 0.9. I am wondering if&#xA;&gt; floating fees should be broken out of the 0.9 release and launched in a&#xA;&gt; quick 0.10 followup - if that were to be done then I think 0.9 could go to&#xA;&gt; beta relatively soon, like early next year. There have been a lot of&#xA;&gt; improvements already and it&#39;d be a shame to block them all further.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Jeff Garzik &lt;jgarzik at bitpay.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Mike Hearn &lt;mike at plan99.net&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt; &gt; &#34;The payment protocol at least would need some notion of fee, or&#xA;&gt;&gt; &gt; possibly&#xA;&gt;&gt; &gt; (better?) the ability for a recipient to specify some inputs as well as&#xA;&gt;&gt; &gt; some&#xA;&gt;&gt; &gt; outputs.&#34;&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; &lt;vendor hat: on&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; BitPay noticed this detail last week.  We were noticing that some&#xA;&gt;&gt; transactions were not even reaching our bitcoind border routers (edge&#xA;&gt;&gt; nodes), due to low/no fees.  That led to a long discussion of all&#xA;&gt;&gt; things fee-related.  SPV fees are a big issue.  Getting&#xA;&gt;&gt; child-pays-for-parent in some form out to miners is another.  Getting&#xA;&gt;&gt; a smart, dynamic fee market Gavin mentions is a big need.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; --&#xA;&gt;&gt; Jeff Garzik&#xA;&gt;&gt; Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist&#xA;&gt;&gt; BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Jeff Garzik&#xA;Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist&#xA;BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/</html></oembed>