<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1j3u42vq63qzs2nyddgkf4s4t7pa85x855vas54e6yauxsvpf2wcsacwg9h</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1j3u42vq63qzs2nyddgkf4s4t7pa85x855vas54e6yauxsvpf2wcsacwg9h</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-15&#xA;📝 Original message:Fair enough, this is what open source is all about. Good things&#xA;sometimes come out of controversial actions. I briefly read the&#xA;manifesto, saw the migration plan, it is not that greedy and in theory&#xA;it is possible to migrate safely with no (big) incidents.&#xA;&#xA;What seams a little bit unfair is that only miners get to vote and&#xA;decide, and the users will have nothing to say about it. Not even&#xA;individual miners will vote, since it will be mostly only mining pools&#xA;(individual small miners will accept whatever their mining pool runs&#xA;on). There are more users than miners obviously, the miners just mine&#xA;transactions for the users, it is the users who keep the btc/usd price.&#xA;&#xA;I use bitcoin heavily (not from time to time) but I don&#39;t mine - can I&#xA;vote? The way I see it I cannot, and I am not saying it is a bad thing,&#xA;but I missed the argument explaining why users don&#39;t matter and only&#xA;miners do.&#xA;&#xA;The btc/usd rate is based on supply and demand, only users take part in&#xA;this. If 20% of the miners (hashing power) go away, the network will&#xA;still operate normally (lower nethash and probably difficulty) and the&#xA;btc/usd price will be the same, but if 20% of the users go away the&#xA;btc/usd price will drop -&gt; mining will be less profitable -&gt; miners&#xA;could be forced to quit. In other words, the users have more control&#xA;over the miners. Why ignore?&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On 8/15/2015 8:02 PM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev wrote:&#xA;&gt; Hello,&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; As promised, we have released Bitcoin XT 0.11A which includes the bigger&#xA;&gt; blocks patch set. You can get it from&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;      https://bitcoinxt.software/&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; I feel sad that it&#39;s come to this, but there is no other way. The&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin Core project has drifted so far from the principles myself and&#xA;&gt; many others feel are important, that a fork is the only way to fix things.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Forking is a natural thing in the open source community, Bitcoin is not&#xA;&gt; the first and won&#39;t be the last project to go through this. Often in&#xA;&gt; forks, people say there was insufficient communication. So to ensure&#xA;&gt; everything is crystal clear I&#39;ve written a blog post and a kind of&#xA;&gt; &#34;manifesto&#34; to describe why this is happening and how XT plans to be&#xA;&gt; different from Core (assuming adoption, of course).&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; The article is here:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;     https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; It makes no attempt to be neutral: this explains things from our point&#xA;&gt; of view.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; The manifesto is on the website.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; I say to all developers on this list: if you also feel that Core is no&#xA;&gt; longer serving the interests of Bitcoin users, come join us. We don&#39;t bite.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;</html></oembed>