<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-06-26&#xA;📝 Original message:On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 08:18:07PM +0100, Ross Nicoll wrote:&#xA;&gt; I&#39;d argue that at the point where there&#39;s consistently more&#xA;&gt; transactions than the network can handle, there are two significant&#xA;&gt; risks. Firstly, that people don&#39;t care enough to pay the transaction&#xA;&gt; fees required to get their transaction prioritised over another&#39;s,&#xA;&gt; and secondly that as transactions start outright failing (which will&#xA;&gt; happen with enough transactions backlogged) the network is&#xA;&gt; considered unreliable, the currency illiquid, and there&#39;s a virtual&#xA;&gt; &#34;bank rush&#34; to get into a more usable currency.&#xA;&#xA;The supply and demand fee market means that there is a range of&#xA;reliability levels depending on what fee you pay; regardless of how high&#xA;demand is if you pay a sufficiently high fee that outbids less&#xA;important/lower fee transactions you&#39;ll get reliable transaction&#xA;confirmaiton.&#xA;&#xA;The perceived lack of reliability is a function of the poor state of&#xA;wallet software, not an inherent problem with the system. Fixing that&#xA;software is much easier and much less risky than any hard-fork ever will&#xA;be.&#xA;&#xA;From my article on transaction fees during the CoinWallet.eu flood:&#xA;&#xA;What needs to be done&#xA;=====================&#xA;&#xA;Transaction fees aren&#39;t going away, blocksize increase or not. CoinWallet.eu is&#xA;only spending $5k flooding the network; even an 8MB blocksize increase can only&#xA;raise the cost of that attack to $40k, which is still very affordable. For&#xA;instance an attacker looking to manipulate the Bitcoin price could probably&#xA;afford to spend $40k doing it with the right trading strategy; let alone&#xA;governments, banks, big businesses, criminal enterprises, etc. to whom $40k is&#xA;chump-change. Wallets need to become smarter about fees, as does the rest of&#xA;the Bitcoin community.&#xA;&#xA;What we need to do:&#xA;&#xA;* Add fee/KB displays to block explorers.&#xA;&#xA;* Change wallets to calculate and set fees in fee/KB rather than fixed fees regardless of tx size.&#xA;&#xA;* Make websites with easy to understand displays of what the current mempool&#xA;  backlog is, and what fee/KB is needed to get to the front of the queue. We&#39;ve&#xA;  done a great job for Bitcoin price charts, let&#39;s extend that to transaction&#xA;  fees.&#xA;&#xA;* Add the ability to set any fee/KB to wallets, rather than be stuck with&#xA;  predefined options that may not be high enough.&#xA;&#xA;* Add support for fee-bumping via (FSS)-RBF to wallets and Bitcoin Core.&#xA;&#xA;Capacity limits are just a fact of life in the design of the Bitcoin protocol,&#xA;but that doesn&#39;t mean we can&#39;t give users the tools to deal with them&#xA;intelligently.&#xA;&#xA;-https://gist.github.com/petertodd/8e87c782bdf342ef18fb&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;&#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@petertodd.org&#xA;0000000000000000007fc13ce02072d9cb2a6d51fae41fefcde7b3b283803d24&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 650 bytes&#xA;Desc: Digital signature&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150626/60768123/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>