<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1mju50kqcm07heu967fkq6h4kq666xgekc4yrldf7q52xx9vr8jnsrdxnq7</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1mju50kqcm07heu967fkq6h4kq666xgekc4yrldf7q52xx9vr8jnsrdxnq7</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2016-10-15&#xA;📝 Original message:On Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:11:02 CEST Marco Falke wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Tom via bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt; &lt;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; I&#39;d suggest saying that &#34;Share alike&#34; is required and &#34;Attribution&#34; is&#xA;&gt; &gt; optional.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Please note there is no CC license that requires SA and at the same&#xA;&gt; time has BY as an option.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Generally, I think CC0 is best suited as license for BIPs. If authors&#xA;&gt; are scared that they won&#39;t get proper attribution, they can choose&#xA;&gt; MIT/BSD or CC-BY.&#xA;&#xA;My suggestion (sorry for not explaining it better) was that for BIPS to be a &#xA;public domain (aka CC0) and a CC-BY option and nothing else.&#xA;&#xA;I like you agree with that part, but I see you added two licenses.&#xA;Do you have a good reason to add MIT/BSD to that list? Otherwise I think we &#xA;agree.&#xA;Using code-specific licenses (including the GPL) for documentation and &#xA;specifically a specification is a really poor fit and doens&#39;t make much sense.&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Other than that I don&#39;t think that more restrictive&#xA;&gt; licenses are suitable for BIPs. The BIP repo seems like the wrong&#xA;&gt; place to promote Open Access (e.g. by choosing a CC-BY-SA license).&#xA;&gt; BIP 2 allows such licenses, but does not recommend them, which is&#xA;&gt; fine.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; I think that BIP 2 in its current form (&#xA;&gt; https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0002.mediawiki&#xA;&gt; @6e47447b ) &#xA;Well, it has this sentence;&#xA;&#xA;&gt; This BIP is dual-licensed under the Open Publication License and&#xA;&gt; BSD 2-clause license. &#xA;&#xA;Which is a bit odd in light of the initial email from Luke that suggested we &#xA;drop the Open Publication License and we use the CC ones instead in addition &#xA;to the public domain one.&#xA;&#xA;Marco:&#xA;&gt; looks good and addressed the feedback which was&#xA;&gt; accumulated last year. If there are no objections I&#39;d suggest to move&#xA;&gt; forward with BIP 2 in the next couple of days/weeks.&#xA;&#xA;Thats odd, you just stated you like the public domain (aka CC0) license, yet &#xA;you encourage the BIP2 that states we can no longer use public domain for &#xA;BIPs... Did you read it?&#xA;It says;&#xA; «Public domain is not universally recognised as a legitimate action, thus&#xA;  it is inadvisable.» [1]&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Also;&#xA;This list has not seen a lot of traffic, if you want to make sure people keep &#xA;using the BIP process, I think you need to reach out to the rest of the &#xA;community and make sure this has been heard and discussed.&#xA;Moving forward the way it is now will likely deminish the importance of the &#xA;BIP process.&#xA;&#xA;I strongly suggest people make very clear any and all changes that are &#xA;proposed and defend each of them with reasons why you want to change things.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;1) if you write as a rationale &#34;In some jurisdictions, public domain is not &#xA;recognised as a legitimate legal action&#34; then you can at least name those &#xA;jurisdictions and explain how they *do* support things like GPL. Burden of &#xA;proof is on the man who wants to change things.&#xA;It looks fishy when lawyers disagree. See the CC wikipedia page;&#xA; &#34;public domain: cc0 Freeing content globally without restrictions&#34;&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Tom Zander&#xA;Blog: https://zander.github.io&#xA;Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel</html></oembed>