<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>Lloyd Fournier [ARCHIVE] (npub1kh…y05yp)</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1khlhcuz0jrjwa0ayznq2q9agg4zvxfvx5x7jljrvwnpfzngrcf0q7y05yp</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2021-06-16&#xA;📝 Original message:@James wrote:&#xA;&#xA;On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 21:13, James MacWhyte &lt;macwhyte at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; @Lloyd wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Of course in reality no one wants to keep their coin holding keys online&#xA;&gt;&gt; so in Alogorand you can authorize a set of &#34;participation keys&#34;[1] that&#xA;&gt;&gt; will be used to create blocks on your coin holding key&#39;s behalf.&#xA;&gt;&gt; Hopefully you&#39;ve spotted the problem.&#xA;&gt;&gt; You can send your participation keys to any malicious party with a nice&#xA;&gt;&gt; website (see random example [2]) offering you a good return.&#xA;&gt;&gt; Damn it&#39;s still Proof-of-SquareSpace!&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; I believe we are talking about a comparison to PoW, correct? If you want&#xA;&gt; to mine PoW, you need to buy expensive hardware and configure it to work,&#xA;&gt; and wait a long time to get any return by solo mining. Or you can join a&#xA;&gt; mining pool, which might use your hashing power for nefarious purposes.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;A mining pool using your hashrate for nefarious purposes can easily be&#xA;observed since they send you the contents of the block you are mining&#xA;before your hardware starts working on it. This difference is crucial.&#xA;Mining pools exist just to reduce income variance.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Or you might skip the hardware all together and fall for some &#34;cloud&#xA;&gt; mining&#34; scheme with a pretty website and a high rate of advertised return.&#xA;&gt; So as you can see, Proof-of-SquareSpace exists in PoW as well!&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;I&#39;d agree that &#34;cloud mining&#34; pretty much is Proof-of-SquareSpace for PoW.&#xA;Fortunately these services make up a tiny fraction of hashrate.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&gt; The PoS equivalent of buying mining hardware is setting up your own&#xA;&gt; validator and not outsourcing that to anyone else. So both PoW and PoS have&#xA;&gt; the professional/expert way of participating, and the fraud-prone, amateur&#xA;&gt; way of participating. The only difference is, with PoS the&#xA;&gt; professional/expert way is accessible to anyone with a raspberry Pi and a&#xA;&gt; web connection, which is a much lower barrier to entry than PoW.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;And yet despite this, the fraud-prone amteur way of participating accounts&#xA;for the majority of stake in PoS systems while the professional/expert way&#xA;of participating accounts for the overwhelming majority of hashpower in&#xA;Bitcoin. It looks like you have elegantly proved my point!&#xA;&#xA;LL&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20210617/672a53bd/attachment-0001.html&gt;</html></oembed>