<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1sgs97fe0n9wehe6zw7drcxdz4cy9yt9pfqjv8gasz5jlk4zezc0quppx3c</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1sgs97fe0n9wehe6zw7drcxdz4cy9yt9pfqjv8gasz5jlk4zezc0quppx3c</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-09-19&#xA;📝 Original message:On 09/19/2015 12:57 AM, NxtChg wrote:&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Your vision of censorship resistance is to become such a strong&#xA;&gt;&gt; central authority that you can resist it in direct physical&#xA;&gt;&gt; confrontation. If you succeed at this, you are the threat.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; My vision is a strong _decentralized_ system, which is:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;   a) too important to close,&#xA;&#xA;Your argument is that the state is not a threat to a system designed to&#xA;deprive the state of seigniorage, because the state will see that system&#xA;as too important?&#xA;&#xA;Bitcoin cannot be both decentralized and reliant on being, &#34;too&#xA;important to close&#34;. If it can be closed there is insufficient&#xA;decentralization.&#xA;&#xA;I was concerned that this was going off topic for a technical forum.&#xA;However this is the central technical issue of Bitcoin. If one does not&#xA;understand the threat then one cannot model it or design systems to&#xA;defend against it. On the other hand, this is unfortunately not new&#xA;territory, so I&#39;ll leave it at this, which is also not news to most of us...&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&gt;   b) able to provide adequate response to governments, like EFF or&#xA;Google do.&#xA;&#xA;&#34;The National Security Agency paid millions of dollars to cover the&#xA;costs of major internet companies involved in the Prism surveillance&#xA;program after a court ruled that some of the agency&#39;s activities were&#xA;unconstitutional, according to top-secret material passed to the Guardian.&#xA;&#xA;The technology companies, which the NSA says includes Google...&#34;&#xA;&#xA;http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/23/nsa-prism-costs-tech-companies-paid&#xA;&#xA;e&#xA;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 473 bytes&#xA;Desc: OpenPGP digital signature&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150919/9fb0d870/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>