<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1zxeun2y8m59t0ehlhk9adtzvdxxw3ty44wq6mwx680lxyvr0kgnsnyx6t2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1zxeun2y8m59t0ehlhk9adtzvdxxw3ty44wq6mwx680lxyvr0kgnsnyx6t2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-05-07&#xA;📝 Original message:It seems to me like some (maybe most) of the pressure is actually external&#xA;from companies that might release something that dramatically increases&#xA;&#34;adoption&#34; &amp; transaction rates (and that the data on historic rate of&#xA;adoption &amp; slumps is somewhat disconnected from their interests in a quick&#xA;roll-out)?&#xA;&#xA;It seems like the question actually becomes what is our maximum acceptable&#xA;cost (hardware capex &amp; bandwidth &amp; power opex) associated with running a&#xA;full node without hardware acceleration and with hardware acceleration&#xA;(something which presumably &#34;doesn&#39;t exist&#34; yet)? Are we making the&#xA;assumption that hardware acceleration for confirmation will become broadly&#xA;available and that the primary limiter will become anonymous bandwidth?&#xA;&#xA;Excuse my ignorance, but I imagine somebody must have already looked at&#xA;confirmation times vs. block size for various existing hardware platforms&#xA;(like at least 3 or 4? maybe a minnowboard, old laptop, and modern desktop&#xA;at least?)? Is there an easy way to setup bitcoind or some other script to&#xA;test this? (happy to help)&#xA;&#xA;Re Moore&#39;s law: yeah, some say stuff like 5nm may never happen. We&#39;re&#xA;already using EUV with plasma emitters, immersed reflective optics, and&#xA;double-patterning... and in storage land switching to helium. Things may&#xA;slow A LOT over the next couple decades and I&#39;d guess that a quadratic&#xA;increase (both in storage &amp; compute) probably isn&#39;t a safe assumption.&#xA;&#xA;On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Btc Drak &lt;btcdrak at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Gavin Costin &lt;slashdevnull at hotmail.com&gt;&#xA;&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Can anyone opposed to this proposal articulate in plain english the worst&#xA;&gt;&gt; case scenario(s) if it goes ahead?&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Some people in the conversation appear to be uncomfortable, perturbed,&#xA;&gt;&gt; defensive etc about the proposal …. But I am not seeing specifics on why it&#xA;&gt;&gt; is not a feasible plan.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; See this response:&#xA;&gt; http://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg07462.html&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud&#xA;&gt; Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications&#xA;&gt; Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights&#xA;&gt; Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.&#xA;&gt; http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20150507/6a87c722/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>