<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1xddusuj8cyeqaqalq0zklafvdgr26pt32t0tvquw5mmwwwm3dehsqlkyw0</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1xddusuj8cyeqaqalq0zklafvdgr26pt32t0tvquw5mmwwwm3dehsqlkyw0</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2017-03-28&#xA;📝 Original message:What meeting are you referring to?  Who were the participants?&#xA;&#xA;Removing the limit but relying on the p2p protocol is not really a true&#xA;32MiB limit, but a limit of whatever transport methods provide.  This can&#xA;lead to differing consensus if alternative layers for relaying are used.&#xA;What you seem to be asking for is an unbound block size (or at least&#xA;determined by whatever miners produce).  This has the possibility (and even&#xA;likelihood) of removing many participants from the network, including many&#xA;small miners.&#xA;&#xA;32MB in less than 3 years also appears to be far beyond limits of safety&#xA;which are known to exist far sooner, and we cannot expect hardware and&#xA;networking layers to improve by those amounts in that time.&#xA;&#xA;It also seems like it would be much better to wait until SegWit activates&#xA;in order to truly measure the effects on the network from this increased&#xA;capacity before committing to any additional increases.&#xA;&#xA;-Alphonse&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Wang Chun via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; I&#39;ve proposed this hard fork approach last year in Hong Kong Consensus&#xA;&gt; but immediately rejected by coredevs at that meeting, after more than&#xA;&gt; one year it seems that lots of people haven&#39;t heard of it. So I would&#xA;&gt; post this here again for comment.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; The basic idea is, as many of us agree, hard fork is risky and should&#xA;&gt; be well prepared. We need a long time to deploy it.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Despite spam tx on the network, the block capacity is approaching its&#xA;&gt; limit, and we must think ahead. Shall we code a patch right now, to&#xA;&gt; remove the block size limit of 1MB, but not activate it until far in&#xA;&gt; the future. I would propose to remove the 1MB limit at the next block&#xA;&gt; halving in spring 2020, only limit the block size to 32MiB which is&#xA;&gt; the maximum size the current p2p protocol allows. This patch must be&#xA;&gt; in the immediate next release of Bitcoin Core.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; With this patch in core&#39;s next release, Bitcoin works just as before,&#xA;&gt; no fork will ever occur, until spring 2020. But everyone knows there&#xA;&gt; will be a fork scheduled. Third party services, libraries, wallets and&#xA;&gt; exchanges will have enough time to prepare for it over the next three&#xA;&gt; years.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; We don&#39;t yet have an agreement on how to increase the block size&#xA;&gt; limit. There have been many proposals over the past years, like&#xA;&gt; BIP100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 109, 148, 248, BU, and so&#xA;&gt; on. These hard fork proposals, with this patch already in Core&#39;s&#xA;&gt; release, they all become soft fork. We&#39;ll have enough time to discuss&#xA;&gt; all these proposals and decide which one to go. Take an example, if we&#xA;&gt; choose to fork to only 2MB, since 32MiB already scheduled, reduce it&#xA;&gt; from 32MiB to 2MB will be a soft fork.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Anyway, we must code something right now, before it becomes too late.&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20170328/ce012e4a/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>