<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-01-17&#xA;📝 Original message:On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:15:40AM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote:&#xA;&gt; I must say, this shed is mighty fine looking. It&#39;d be a great place to&#xA;&gt; store our bikes. But, what colour should we paint it?&#xA;&#xA;I think we should paint it this colour:&#xA;&#xA;    They had uncovered what seemed to be the side of a large coloured&#xA;    globule embedded in the substance. The colour, which resembled some&#xA;    of the bands in the meteor&#39;s strange spectrum, was almost impossible&#xA;    to describe; and it was only by analogy that they called it colour&#xA;    at all.  Its texture was glossy, and upon tapping it appeared to&#xA;    promise both brittle ness and hollowness. One of the professors gave&#xA;    it a smart blow with a hammer, and it burst with a nervous little&#xA;    pop. Nothing was emitted, and all trace of the thing vanished with&#xA;    the puncturing. It left behind a hollow spherical space about three&#xA;    inches across, and all thought it probable that others would be&#xA;    discovered as the enclosing substance wasted away.&#xA;&#xA;I think it really gets to the core of my feelings about this naming&#xA;discussion.&#xA;&#xA;&gt; How about we split the difference and go with &#34;privacy address&#34;? As Peter&#xA;&gt; notes, that&#39;s what people actually like and want. The problem with stealth&#xA;&gt; is it&#39;s got strong connotations with American military hardware and perhaps&#xA;&gt; thieves sneaking around in the night:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&amp;q=stealth&#xA;&#xA;WOW! AWESOME KICK-ASS PICS!&#xA;&#xA;Come to think of it, I could have called it &#34;incognito addresses&#34; - a&#xA;term nice enough that Google and Firefox use it in their browsers - but&#xA;what&#39;s done is done and any further discussion about this is just going&#xA;to confuse the public. Remember that in the long run all this stuff will&#xA;be hidden behind payment protocols anyway, and users *won&#39;t even know*&#xA;that under the hood a stealth address is being used, making the name&#xA;just a technical detail. For now though, lets use the good PR and get&#xA;some early adopters on board.&#xA;&#xA;However, the term &#39;incognito&#39; probably would be a good one to use within&#xA;wallet software itself to describe what it&#39;s doing when the user clicks&#xA;the &#34;I want my transactions to be private&#34; setting - there are after all&#xA;fundemental bandwidth-privacy trade-offs in the threat model supposed by&#xA;both prefix and bloom filters. In this instance the term isn&#39;t going to&#xA;go away.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;Anyway, back to work: For the actual address format I strongly think we&#xA;need to ensure that it can be upgrading in a backwards compatible way.&#xA;This means we have to be able to add new fields - for instance if&#xA;Gregory&#39;s ideas for different ways of doing the SPV-bait came to&#xA;fruition. Given that &#34;addresses&#34; aren&#39;t something that should stay&#xA;user-visible forever, thoughts on just making the actual data a protocol&#xA;buffers object?&#xA;&#xA;Second question: Any performance figures yet on how efficient scanning&#xA;the blockchain for matching transactions actually is? I&#39;d like to get an&#xA;idea soon for both desktop and smartphone wallets so we can figure out&#xA;what kind of trade-offs users might be forced into in terms of prefix&#xA;length.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;&#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@petertodd.org&#xA;0000000000000001c9b372ed519ecc6d41c10b42a7457d1ca5acd560a535596b&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 490 bytes&#xA;Desc: Digital signature&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20140117/588e739e/attachment.sig&gt;</html></oembed>