<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2022-07-11&#xA;📝 Original message:On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 02:01:09AM +0200, James MacWhyte wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 12:26 AM Peter Todd &lt;pete at petertodd.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &gt; Anyway, designing protocols for &#34;price go up forever&#34; hopium is a bad idea.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; I&#39;m quite disappointed that this is what you&#39;ve reduced my argument to. The&#xA;&gt; price doesn&#39;t need hopium; if it stays between where it is now and the all&#xA;&gt; time high, that is enough to make mining rewards appealing.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Anyway, once the LA dinner rush ends at 8PM it is already noon in Tokyo.&#xA;&gt; The Pacific is big, but not *that* big.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Certainly we should be designing protocols in anticipation of increased&#xA;&gt; adoption, and not assuming the world will always be exactly as it is today?&#xA;&#xA;We should design protocols that do reasonably well in *both* scenarios. Because&#xA;the future is unknown. Hell, I won&#39;t be surprised if further developments come&#xA;along that reduce demand for on-chain txs even further.&#xA;&#xA;The fact is basing security budget in part on the total value of the coin being&#xA;secured very cleanly solves the problem of ensuring that there is sufficient&#xA;mining reward. Similarly, we also have to plan for the potential environment&#xA;where fee demand is very high. And we&#39;ve done a good job of that, including&#xA;Lightning, replace-by-fee, etc.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;https://petertodd.org &#39;peter&#39;[:-1]@petertodd.org&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;A non-text attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;Name: signature.asc&#xA;Type: application/pgp-signature&#xA;Size: 833 bytes&#xA;Desc: not available&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20220711/4918b612/attachment-0001.sig&gt;</html></oembed>