<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1ac86vemj7ce5z8jyxt39rna3tvwql6xd30ha3vxcd6esysp23d9qrlswfj</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1ac86vemj7ce5z8jyxt39rna3tvwql6xd30ha3vxcd6esysp23d9qrlswfj</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-03-21&#xA;📝 Original message:Maybe its time to explore raw ECDSA signed message based certs.&#xA;&#xA;btw I dont think its quite 4kB.  eg bitpay&#39;s looks to be about 1.5kB in der&#xA;format.  And they contain a 2048-bit RSA server key, and 2048-bit RSA&#xA;signatures (256byte each right there = 512bytes).  And even 2048 is weaker&#xA;than 256-bit ECDSA.&#xA;&#xA;Adam&#xA;&#xA;On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:25:59AM +0100, Andreas Schildbach wrote:&#xA;&gt;On 03/20/2014 01:12 PM, Adam Back wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Whats a sensible limit on practical/convenient QR code size?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;Technically 3 KB. In my experience codes above 1.5 KB become impossible&#xA;&gt;to scan (ZXing scanner, 3 years ago). You will want to stay below 500&#xA;&gt;bytes for convenient scanning. That said, I&#39;m convinced there is a lot&#xA;&gt;of room for scanning improvements.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; How much of the payment protocol message size comes from use of x509?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;As said in the OP, a minimal PR uses 50 bytes. X.509 seems to put about&#xA;&gt;4000 bytes on top of that.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;As you can see, we have quite some room for improvements to PR payload&#xA;&gt;(PaymentDetails). X.509 certification will probably not be possible via&#xA;&gt;QR, at least not until specialized CA&#39;s will issue space-efficient certs&#xA;&gt;(using ECDSA?).</html></oembed>