<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1m6p5kgcd428x6pxyfege98zjmlwrdhp0gyz6pdnsvrvalscddnxqurdjn5</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1m6p5kgcd428x6pxyfege98zjmlwrdhp0gyz6pdnsvrvalscddnxqurdjn5</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-03-13&#xA;📝 Original message:&lt;cynic hat: on&gt;&#xA;&#xA;Every volatility bump messes up expectations of what a bitcoin is worth,&#xA;so why are we bikeshedding uBTC vs mBTC? Just be done with it and do mBTC&#xA;now, and plan uBTC for just after the next price spike to $10KUSD or whatever, &#xA;and then plan on rolling back to mBTC when the price crashes from altcoin&#xA;money supply inflation competition.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 09:45:54AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:&#xA;&gt; &lt;vendor hat: on&gt;&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Based on this seeming consensus, BitPay was headed towards uBTC&#xA;&gt; internally, and hoped to coordinate messaging and rollout with others&#xA;&gt; in the community.  Ah well, proceed apace, and Bitcoin Wallet will&#xA;&gt; catch up, I suppose.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Multiple unit changes negatively impact users, but we are already there :/&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Wladimir &lt;laanwj at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Jeff Garzik &lt;jgarzik at bitpay.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; Resurrecting this topic.  Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place&#xA;&gt; &gt;&gt; transition.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; I&#39;ve kind of given up getting any consensus about this, or even getting&#xA;&gt; &gt; people to care.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; Everyone agrees that a decimal shift would be good, but it&#39;s the same boring&#xA;&gt; &gt; shed painting discussion every time on how many decimals. In the end nothing&#xA;&gt; &gt; happens.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; I can&#39;t really blame Andreas for finally taking action and making the change&#xA;&gt; &gt; to mBTC. People in the community are familiar with mBTC because some&#xA;&gt; &gt; exchanges and price sites used mBTC (at least for a while when &gt;$1000), also&#xA;&gt; &gt; mBTC seems to be catching on on reddit etc.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; Moving to muBTC (which in itself would be better because it is the final&#xA;&gt; &gt; unit change ever needed without hardfork) would require more coordinated&#xA;&gt; &gt; education effort.&#xA;&gt; &gt;&#xA;&gt; &gt; Wladimir&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; -- &#xA;&gt; Jeff Garzik&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist&#xA;&gt; BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt; Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O&#39;Reilly Book&#xA;&gt; &#34;Graph Databases&#34; is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their&#xA;&gt; applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,&#xA;&gt; this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!&#xA;&gt; http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;----------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;Troy Benjegerdes                 &#39;da hozer&#39;                  hozer at hozed.org&#xA;7 elements      earth::water::air::fire::mind::spirit::soul        grid.coop&#xA;&#xA;      Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel,&#xA;         nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash</html></oembed>