<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1m230cem2yh3mtdzkg32qhj73uytgkyg5ylxsu083n3tpjnajxx4qqa2np2</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-01-19&#xA;📝 Original message:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----&#xA;Hash: SHA256&#xA;&#xA;That&#39;s 100% true: BIP70 passes around serialized protobuf data that it signs directly for this reason; it could just as easily be a byte array with json in it. (not that json/XML/etc. doesn&#39;t have other flaws)&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;On 19 January 2015 13:03:32 GMT-07:00, Alan Reiner &lt;etotheipi at gmail.com&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;I&#39;m a bit confused.  It&#39;s been a long time since I looked at protobuf&#xA;&gt;(and will have to dig into it soon), but I seem to recall it doesn&#39;t&#xA;&gt;have any of the determinism properties you guys just said.  It is&#xA;&gt;intended to allow you to skip details of the on-the-wire&#xA;&gt;representations&#xA;&gt;and just send a bunch of named fields between systems.  I thought there&#xA;&gt;was no guarantee that two identical protobuf structures will get&#xA;&gt;serialized identically...?&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;On 01/19/2015 02:57 PM, Richard Brady wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt; Thanks guys, great answers.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; The design choice certainly makes a lot more sense now regardless of&#xA;&gt;&gt; whether one agrees with it or not.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Regards,&#xA;&gt;&gt; Richard&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt;&gt; New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA.&#xA;&gt;&gt; GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in&#xA;&gt;Ashburn.&#xA;&gt;&gt; Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth.&#xA;&gt;&gt; Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely&#xA;&gt;compliant.&#xA;&gt;&gt; http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt;&gt; Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt;&gt; Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt;&gt; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt;New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA.&#xA;&gt;GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in&#xA;&gt;Ashburn.&#xA;&gt;Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth.&#xA;&gt;Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely&#xA;&gt;compliant.&#xA;&gt;http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;------------------------------------------------------------------------&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;_______________________________________________&#xA;&gt;Bitcoin-development mailing list&#xA;&gt;Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net&#xA;&gt;https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development&#xA;-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----&#xA;Version: APG v1.1.1&#xA;&#xA;iQFQBAEBCAA6BQJUvWPOMxxQZXRlciBUb2RkIChsb3cgc2VjdXJpdHkga2V5KSA8&#xA;cGV0ZUBwZXRlcnRvZGQub3JnPgAKCRAZnIM7qOfwhbq4CACAptz1s1rYdQtviI5Y&#xA;UrqoifRAldRlUaOphle5OKCK+Gus0zqhqm/kiaQtbCg39F1gZ43QrJ/+t9kjZ19l&#xA;QcrtnIEffAyBdzCXiZH7N9HwGalxBRyiUcKc5iZT2DOYw4rwdJvYXB/PdlPOvGkq&#xA;rx/q93r2dJSFMFonnmM9pzbvUKS6dLrAWUTJCWH9EVK54TxBjVkoPXuZJEGBHr88&#xA;6MMTiRu1+KblxZbOozGRIXmrfd/7+akM6jLMU9FO4BwosUitOc9OWznGS1rvumlQ&#xA;5ESTzaiM9TpBLIW3rkJZmqA51Z1lbgVxXFA4HbctyQeMKIZxNn8e+RpWGYdpCblc&#xA;wfd6&#xA;=GYj6&#xA;-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----</html></oembed>