<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub149tvqh6gesh22h60jrehl5clrxscx6q65wznq9ty6pae8sxq00esg5vasy</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub149tvqh6gesh22h60jrehl5clrxscx6q65wznq9ty6pae8sxq00esg5vasy</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2017-03-29&#xA;📝 Original message:In order for any blocksize increase to be agreed upon, more consensus is&#xA;needed.  The proportion of users believing no blocksize increases are&#xA;needed is larger than the hardfork target core wants(95% consensus).  The&#xA;proportion of users believing in microtransactions for all is also larger&#xA;than 5%, and both of those groups may be larger than 10% respectively.  I&#xA;don&#39;t think either the Big-blocks faction nor the low-node-costs faction&#xA;have even a simple majority of support.  Getting consensus is going to be a&#xA;big mess, but it is critical that it is done.&#xA;&#xA;On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Martin Lízner via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&#xA;&gt; If there should be a hard-fork, Core team should author the code. Other&#xA;&gt; dev teams have marginal support among all BTC users.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Im tending to believe, that HF is necessary evil now. But lets do it in&#xA;&gt; conservative approach:&#xA;&gt; - Fix historical BTC issues, improve code&#xA;&gt; - Plan HF activation date well ahead - 12 months+&#xA;&gt; - Allow increasing block size on year-year basis as Luke suggested&#xA;&gt; - Compromise with miners on initial block size bump (e.g. 2MB)&#xA;&gt; - SegWit&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Martin Lizner&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Wang Chun via bitcoin-dev &lt;&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; I&#39;ve proposed this hard fork approach last year in Hong Kong Consensus&#xA;&gt;&gt; but immediately rejected by coredevs at that meeting, after more than&#xA;&gt;&gt; one year it seems that lots of people haven&#39;t heard of it. So I would&#xA;&gt;&gt; post this here again for comment.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; The basic idea is, as many of us agree, hard fork is risky and should&#xA;&gt;&gt; be well prepared. We need a long time to deploy it.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Despite spam tx on the network, the block capacity is approaching its&#xA;&gt;&gt; limit, and we must think ahead. Shall we code a patch right now, to&#xA;&gt;&gt; remove the block size limit of 1MB, but not activate it until far in&#xA;&gt;&gt; the future. I would propose to remove the 1MB limit at the next block&#xA;&gt;&gt; halving in spring 2020, only limit the block size to 32MiB which is&#xA;&gt;&gt; the maximum size the current p2p protocol allows. This patch must be&#xA;&gt;&gt; in the immediate next release of Bitcoin Core.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; With this patch in core&#39;s next release, Bitcoin works just as before,&#xA;&gt;&gt; no fork will ever occur, until spring 2020. But everyone knows there&#xA;&gt;&gt; will be a fork scheduled. Third party services, libraries, wallets and&#xA;&gt;&gt; exchanges will have enough time to prepare for it over the next three&#xA;&gt;&gt; years.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; We don&#39;t yet have an agreement on how to increase the block size&#xA;&gt;&gt; limit. There have been many proposals over the past years, like&#xA;&gt;&gt; BIP100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 109, 148, 248, BU, and so&#xA;&gt;&gt; on. These hard fork proposals, with this patch already in Core&#39;s&#xA;&gt;&gt; release, they all become soft fork. We&#39;ll have enough time to discuss&#xA;&gt;&gt; all these proposals and decide which one to go. Take an example, if we&#xA;&gt;&gt; choose to fork to only 2MB, since 32MiB already scheduled, reduce it&#xA;&gt;&gt; from 32MiB to 2MB will be a soft fork.&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; Anyway, we must code something right now, before it becomes too late.&#xA;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&#xA;-------------- next part --------------&#xA;An HTML attachment was scrubbed...&#xA;URL: &lt;http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/attachments/20170329/89ff2027/attachment.html&gt;</html></oembed>