<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1du3xh5wgds32a5fweqkd9k45kh30wl7kv2kyu8ugz9c2ztdg00tqqvyg93</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1du3xh5wgds32a5fweqkd9k45kh30wl7kv2kyu8ugz9c2ztdg00tqqvyg93</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-07&#xA;📝 Original message:On Friday 7. August 2015 19.09.30 Pieter Wuille wrote:&#xA;&gt; &gt; And you do the same thing again; you dismiss the need factor.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; Of course there is a need. It&#39;s the primary mechanism that keeps Bitcoin&#xA;&gt; secure and immune from malicious influence.&#xA;&#xA;I see a pretty big problem if this really is your insight, the need an &#xA;individual has for running a node is a completely different concept than the &#xA;need for nodes to exist.  And, really, you are describing miners, not nodes.&#xA;&#xA;good thing is that you seem to agree with me as your continue with;&#xA;&#xA;&gt; Of course not everyone needs to run a node. &#xA;&#xA;Thats the &#39;need&#39; I was talking about.&#xA;As we concluded in our previous email, the need to run a node is inversely &#xA;proportional to the ability (or willingness) to trust others.&#xA;And lets face it, practically everyone trusts others with their money today.&#xA;&#xA;&#xA;&gt; But that leaves the&#xA;&gt; responsibility on us - the community - to help the situation by not making&#xA;&gt; it too hard to run a node. And I see the block size as the primary way&#xA;&gt; through which we do that.&#xA;&#xA;That won&#39;t really have any influence, economics 101 says that it doesn&#39;t work &#xA;that way.  Lowering the cost on a product won&#39;t make it sell more without the &#xA;people wanting or needing the product.&#xA;&#xA;&gt; If the impact of the system goes u[p], so should the - joint - incentives to&#xA;&gt; keep it secure. And I think we&#39;re (slowly) failing at that.&#xA;&#xA;That is your opinion. At least, I don&#39;t see that conclusion supported by &#xA;evidence.&#xA;I&#39;ll defer to Gavins emails that countered this point better.&#xA;&#xA;-- &#xA;Thomas Zander</html></oembed>