<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1kpxa282a99fc93xx30ru3sfmqnyqk3r8aurz3znzxyslhd7felfsg7e3fd</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1kpxa282a99fc93xx30ru3sfmqnyqk3r8aurz3znzxyslhd7felfsg7e3fd</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2015-08-13&#xA;📝 Original message:3) A few more people begin using bitcoin. Bitcoin buckles and dies.&#xA;&#xA;- Something happens a few months from now causing an influx of new users&#xA;and more transactions.&#xA;- Blocks are constantly full.&#xA;- A backlog of transactions keeps growing indefinitely.&#xA;- At first people say &#34;bitcoin is slow&#34;. After a while they say &#34;bitcoin&#xA;doesn&#39;t work&#34;.&#xA;- Changing the hard limit on block size requires a fork and takes too long.&#xA;- As bitcoin no longer works people stop using it.&#xA;- Bitcoin lives out the last of its days in the backwaters of the&#xA;internet with only 5 users. They keep telling people &#34;we increased the&#xA;block size now&#34;. Unfortunately noone is listening anymore.&#xA;- People laugh at you and say &#34;I told you that buttcoin thing was doomed&#xA;to fail. After all it wasn&#39;t real money.&#34;&#xA;&#xA;If the hard limit had been increased earlier then mining pools would&#xA;have been able to react quickly by upping their own soft limit. But this&#xA;was not the case and so ended Bitcoin.&#xA;&#xA;So in summary:&#xA;&#xA;By increasing the block size limit you run the risk of:&#xA;- The transaction fee market takes a little longer to develop.&#xA;By not increasing the limit you run the risk of:&#xA;- Bitcoin dies. The end.&#xA;&#xA;Transaction fees should not be the main topic of this discussion, and&#xA;probably not even a part of it at all. That seems outright irresponsible&#xA;to me.&#xA;&#xA;Regards,&#xA;Geir H. Hansen, Bitminter mining pool&#xA;&#xA;On 12.08.2015 11:59, Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev wrote:&#xA;&gt; I believe all concerns I&#39;ve read can be classified in the following groups:&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt; 1) Potential indirect consequence of rising fees.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; - Lowest fee transactions (currently free transactions) will become&#xA;&gt; more unreliable.&#xA;&gt; - People will migrate to competing systems (PoW altcoins) with lower fees.&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt;&gt; 2) Software problem independent of a concrete block size that needs to&#xA;&gt;&gt; be solved anyway, often specific to Bitcoin Core (ie other&#xA;&gt;&gt; implementations, say libbitcoin may not necessarily share these&#xA;&gt;&gt; problems).&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; - Bitcoin Core&#39;s mempool is unbounded in size and can make the program&#xA;&gt; crash by using too much memory.&#xA;&gt; - There&#39;s no good way to increase the fee of a transaction that is&#xA;&gt; taking too long to be mined without the &#34;double spending&#34; transaction&#xA;&gt; with the higher fee being blocked by most nodes which follow Bitcoin&#xA;&gt; Core&#39;s default policy for conflicting spends replacements (aka &#34;first&#xA;&gt; seen&#34; replacement policy).&#xA;&gt; &#xA;&gt; I have started with the 3 concerns that I read more often, but please&#xA;&gt; suggest more concerns for these categories and suggest other&#xA;&gt; categories if you think there&#39;s more.&#xA;&gt; _______________________________________________&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list&#xA;&gt; bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org&#xA;&gt; https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev&#xA;&gt;</html></oembed>