<oembed><type>rich</type><version>1.0</version><author_name>npub1sm6zhjmk5scuz294jmpkw99wwwjzetjgwp4fu4gn6utqgdz87hkqamnq7h</author_name><author_url>https://nostr.ae/npub1sm6zhjmk5scuz294jmpkw99wwwjzetjgwp4fu4gn6utqgdz87hkqamnq7h</author_url><provider_name>njump</provider_name><provider_url>https://nostr.ae</provider_url><html>📅 Original date posted:2014-03-13&#xA;📝 Original message:On 03/13/2014 10:32 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:&#xA;&gt; On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Mike Hearn &lt;mike at plan99.net&gt; wrote:&#xA;&gt;&gt; BitPay should use mBTC as well. Unless you can point to any major wallets,&#xA;&gt;&gt; exchanges or price watching sites that use uBTC by default?&#xA;&gt;&gt;&#xA;&gt;&gt; I think it is highly optimistic to assume we&#39;ll need another 1000x shift any&#xA;&gt;&gt; time soon. By now Bitcoin isn&#39;t obscure anymore. Lots of people have heard&#xA;&gt; Such hand-wavy, data-free logic is precisely why community&#xA;&gt; coordination is preferred to random apps making random decisions in&#xA;&gt; this manner.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; mBTC is problematic because you do not need 1000x shift in value to&#xA;&gt; produce annoyances for major accounting packages that are hard-limited&#xA;&gt; to two decimal places.  Further, spreadsheets hide information if&#xA;&gt; formatting is configured naively -- that is, if formatting is&#xA;&gt; configured for bitcoin the way it is configured for other currencies.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&gt; Fundamentally, more than two decimal places tends to violate the&#xA;&gt; Principle Of Least Astonishment with many humans, and as a result,&#xA;&gt; popular software systems have been written with that assumption.&#xA;&gt;&#xA;&#xA;I whole-heartedly agree with Jeff.  micro-BTC was the way to go to end&#xA;user confusion and make things easier for software systems which are&#xA;designed to handle money (i.e. two decimal places).  I also echo the&#xA;sentiment about people being able to handle large numbers well. &#xA;&#xA;We&#39;ve been working with Marty Zigman who&#39;s creating a Bitcoin plugin for&#xA;NetSuite accounting platform, and he was already forced to switch&#xA;micro-BTC long ago for exactly the reasons described above.  I think the&#xA;system will track up to 3 decimal places without causing all sorts of&#xA;heartache and automatic rounding.&#xA;&#xA;Of course, as Mike said, this ship may have already sailed, but if&#xA;there&#39;s any way to revisit this, I&#39;m there.  We&#39;re just about to do&#xA;another Armory release and could support this very easily.</html></oembed>