rich1.0npub10etkvm8l0jr0jsgdx02dxnhnu5g989dnca90guj5rklwkaplnh3sgjc727https://nostr.ae/npub10etkvm8l0jr0jsgdx02dxnhnu5g989dnca90guj5rklwkaplnh3sgjc727njumphttps://nostr.ae📅 Original date posted:2014-01-13 📝 Original message:On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Jeremy Spilman <jeremy at taplink.co> wrote: > > I think for displaying the payment in the UI after it's been made via > PP, we have to fully > > support sending to a new standard address type anyway. On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:26:18 -0800, Mike Hearn <mike at plan99.net> wrote: > Why? Showing an address is meaningless, especially if the user didn't > type it in or see > it somewhere else. It's just an opaque random number, all putting it in > the UI can do is > make it look scarier :) > > Part of the point of the payment protocol is it lets merchants provide > human readable text > for transactions instead of addresses. Of course you're right, moving away from addresses is definitely part of the point of PP. On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:18:33 -0800, Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen at gmail.com> wrote: > No, please. Make it easy for non-geeks, extend the payment protocol, or > we'll spend the next > two years writing code that tries to ignore linebreaks and spaces and > changing <input> in HTML > forms to <textarea>... Agreed, it's long enough to be even more problematic than usual. If the general consensus is that there should not even be a standardized address form, then I can skip that entirely, and go straight to trying to extend PP. It's a given this will be implemented for Payment Protocol. The question is whether it's also usable outside of PP. I was kind of imagining that we could encourage people to replace all their static address text that live on Github pages, and README.me, and forum signatures, etc. with new 'href=bitcoin:xSTL...' URIs. Convention could be to require only transporting xSTL addresses within a URI, even going so far as to not support them copy/pasted. 101 characters is not much longer (and sometimes shorter) than PaymentRequest URIs end up being. I think there are ways to make stealth addresses easy enough to use that people actually prefer using them for P2P payments which do not involve a full-stack merchant. In that case, if it was a PaymentRequest it would almost certainly not be signed, and would be more easily shared over email or SMS as a URI than as a file attachment or, even worse, putting the unsigned PR file up on a third-party server which probably won't do a good job securing it. * PP Implementation Overview * The basic PaymentRequest>PaymentDetails is expecting 'output' containing one or more TxOuts with script and amount. I believe the general approach is to put a fallback address into 'output' for backward compatibility, and put Q and Q2 into an extension field. So we add a new optional field to PaymentDetails which contains the one or two PubKeys. Not sure if we want different protobuf tags, or if the difference in length of the value makes it obvious enough which approach is being used; optional bytes stealthOnePubKey = 1000 optional bytes stealthTwoPubKey = 1001 or just optional bytes stealth = 1000 * User Interaction / Flow * Lets follow this through from the user perspective, starting with what it looks like today. I'm having a hard time finding screenshots of what PP looks like in BitcoinQT, so I built from HEAD and using Gavin's Handy-Dandy PaymentRequest Generator (https://bitcoincore.org/~gavin/createpaymentrequest.php): Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/k6j9D Image 1 - 'Send' screen after clicking a PR URI with a small transaction and auto-calculated fee Image 2 - System Tray notification after clicking 'Send' Image 3 - Transaction List showing partially confirmed transaction Image 4 - Transactions details popup We see 'Pay To' (Common Name from the cert) and 'Memo' on the Send screen. The System Tray notification popup and Transaction List shows just the address string. The 'Transaction details' window shows 'Merchant' which I think is the same as 'Pay To'. You also have 'Copy address' option in the right-click menu. Memo seems not to be saved, or at least not visible in the UI after sending a payment. * Transaction Display * The address string is fairly pervasive, which is why I was originally thinking it would make sense to implement all the address handling first, so all those screens would continue to work as specified, without trying to hack something different in those fields. Without digging too far into the code, it looks like "address" displayed is derived from the TxOut -- e.g. script.cpp:ExtractDestination. This could be a bit problematic depending on what we really want to show to the user -- the stealth multisig, or the pubkeys? Part of the point of stealth addresses is actually making them reusable. So if you're the originator of the payment, you might want the wallet to tag that transaction somehow with the pubkeys used to generate it. Also, ideally I think I would want multiple different stealth payments within a single wallet to the same merchant / pubkeys to be identifiable as such. * Sample Code * Will follow in another email, to be sent shortly!